Episode 603
O Canada, Mark — A Canadian Music Education with And The Podcast Will Rock
Featuring Corey and Mark from And The Podcast Will Rock
There's a guy in Tennessee who thought Canadian music was just Rush. He was wrong. This is the episode that fixed that.
Sean, Todd, and Corey from And The Podcast Will Rock spent 12 hours on prep work — between them — to put together the ultimate Canadian music education for Mark, Corey's American co-host on the Van Halen podcast And The Podcast Will Rock. The playlist covers four corners of Canadian music — classic, newer, rock, and metal — and Mark's reactions are everything you'd hope for.
Along the way there's a debate about what makes something a bar song, whether Kim Mitchell is the Canadian David Lee Roth or the Canadian Huey Lewis, why Canadian bands are apparently mandated to have singers with impossibly high upper registers, the difference between a Spinal Tap bassist and a Triumph bassist (it is not as much as you'd think), why Nickelback's problem is their fans and not their music, what happens when you buy beer in Canada versus Tennessee, and whether the Headstones doing Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald at 4 minutes 46 seconds is better than Gordon Lightfoot doing it at 17 minutes.
It is.
Welcome to Canada, Mark. You're one of us now.
This episode features:
- Triumph — the power trio from Ontario who were massive in Texas for reasons nobody has fully explained
- Devin Townsend — whose Addicted album is the one you need to sit down before pressing play, and whose connection to Steve Vai most people have forgotten
- Max Webster — Kim Mitchell before he went solo, Battle Scar with Geddy Lee, Alex and Neil playing along, and Mark immediately recognizing Rush before being told who it was
- Kim Mitchell — Go For Soda, Rock and Roll Duty, Easy to Tame, and the video that features what looks exactly like Bugamo
- Killer Dwarfs — the band that gave Mark Iron Maiden and early Judas Priest vibes and apparently played to a certain someone's tape deck back in the Moncton days
- The Northern Pikes — the Saskatchewan bar song that Corey picked specifically for the day Mark comes to visit
- The Odds — Heterosexual Man, featuring Kids in the Hall in the video, a Corner Gas connection nobody knew, and everybody ending up in drag
- The Headstones — Tweeter and the Monkey Man, a Traveling Wilburys cover, the beer CD promotion story, and a casting session for the movie version of the song
- The Tragically Hip — Ahead by a Century, the SNL appearance, the Dan Aykroyd introduction, why they're Canada's Bruce Springsteen, and why Dave Matthews is a poor man's Tragically Hip
Guests:
- Corey — Fine Wine Corey — And The Podcast Will Rock
- Mark — Craft Beer Mark — And The Podcast Will Rock
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Transcript
Anyway, welcome to the Sean Geek at Fast Fred podcast.
Speaker A:You can hear some voices in the background.
Speaker A:We get my brother, Fast Fred here.
Speaker A:Anyway, so this week we have a couple of guests.
Speaker A:We brought the entire crew from, and the podcast will rock.
Speaker A:Gentlemen, do you want to introduce yourselves?
Speaker B:My name is Corey, and it's a real pleasure to be here on the Fast Freddy and Geek Boy Show.
Speaker B:Where's Karen?
Speaker B:I want to talk about she Hulk kicking around her somewhere.
Speaker A:Yeah, she's coming on.
Speaker A:Oh, she's going to be on a Wednesday.
Speaker A:We're prepping the 400th episode and we're not sure what to do.
Speaker A:And one of the suggestions was to have the four co hosts because there's Karen, but then there's also the other Corey, Corey Geek, who's been on.
Speaker B:A.
Speaker A:Few dozen episodes, I'm sure.
Speaker A:So maybe thinking of doing the four of us, and then the another original co host who lives in Montreal.
Speaker A:She said she'd be willing to come back for it, too.
Speaker A:So maybe we'll do that.
Speaker A:We're not quite sure.
Speaker A:We're still plotting and planning.
Speaker A:We'll see what we're going to do.
Speaker B:So 400, that's big.
Speaker B:We're on.
Speaker B:What are we on, Mark?
Speaker B:42, 43, Something like that.
Speaker C:We're in the 40s.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:Oh, Mark and Meyer here.
Speaker C:Hello, everybody.
Speaker C:And if we're talking she Hulk, I'm here for it.
Speaker A:Have you.
Speaker A:Are you up to date on she Hulk?
Speaker C:Oh, yes, absolutely.
Speaker A:All right, maybe when I have Karen on, I'll get you to come on, too.
Speaker B:I love the Karen shows that she laughs at everything.
Speaker B:It doesn't matter what she says.
Speaker B:There's a giggle at the end that just.
Speaker B:It just brightens my day whenever I hear it.
Speaker A:But yeah, no, she's.
Speaker A:She's awesome.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So Corey Geek is gone, I hear.
Speaker B:I was angling for my own Sean Geek Crash Threat nickname, and then stupid Eric Senich went and took my other suggestion.
Speaker B:He's.
Speaker B:He's slow Eric now.
Speaker B:I was going to be slow Cory.
Speaker B:I'm thinking maybe I should.
Speaker C:I'll lay claim to Fat Corey or Older Corey.
Speaker B:Old Corey.
Speaker C:One year.
Speaker C:One year older.
Speaker A:Thank you very much.
Speaker C:Happy birthday to Corey, everybody.
Speaker A:Actually, I think you're just slightly older than.
Speaker A:Than Corey Geek.
Speaker B:Oh, really?
Speaker A:Older.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:There you go.
Speaker B:Slightly older with age.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like a fine wine.
Speaker B:We get better with age.
Speaker C:So are we Fine wine Corey?
Speaker C:There it is.
Speaker A:Fine wine Corey.
Speaker A:Okay, I like that.
Speaker A:Yeah, I like it because by the.
Speaker B:End of the show, we need one for Mark now.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:Think.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Anyway, so what are we doing today?
Speaker A:So I wanted to have you guys on because, you know, just because we've.
Speaker A:We've done your show twice.
Speaker A:You haven't done our show yet, but I wanted to bring you on to do something because we don't have a format.
Speaker A:You guys have a pretty solid format, but we just.
Speaker A:Todd and I go off the cuff a lot of times, and a lot of times we'll come in with two or three ideas that we want to do for that particular episodes.
Speaker A:We do, and then we don't do any of them.
Speaker A:Todd tells me about his day.
Speaker D:He.
Speaker A:I tell him about mine, and then we're off in the weeds.
Speaker D:So we probably noticed that on your show, we'll start talking about something.
Speaker D:All of a sudden, we'll just veer left at Albuquerque, and he's like, where the hell did you go?
Speaker B:Well, and that's where we have the most fun.
Speaker B:And then the fans tell us, you know, don't let the show go off the rails like that again.
Speaker B:Off the rails.
Speaker D:I know.
Speaker A:I'm like, what the hell are you talking about?
Speaker D:It was fun.
Speaker A:Like, you can't tell me people didn't laugh during that episode.
Speaker C:Yeah, I heard.
Speaker C:I had a lot of great feedback from that last episode you guys did with.
Speaker C:So, you know, to every.
Speaker C:To everyone who had a problem with us going off the rails, sorry for you.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker A:We're allowed to have fun.
Speaker A:This is exactly.
Speaker A:This isn't a news.
Speaker A:Yours isn't a news podcast.
Speaker A:It's a fun podcast.
Speaker D:You know, it's not.
Speaker D:One of us is wearing a tie.
Speaker D:We all just get out of bed.
Speaker B:Hello.
Speaker B:Good morning.
Speaker A:I thought about 8am I thought about putting Bailey's in the coffee this morning.
Speaker A:I guess you can't see my coffee.
Speaker C:If I had some, I would have done that.
Speaker D:Who's Bailey?
Speaker C:An old friend.
Speaker A:Anyway, so we were trying to come up with what we were going to have you on to do, and then.
Speaker A:So Corey is from Saskatchewan.
Speaker D:Yes.
Speaker A:Mark is from Tennessee.
Speaker C:Yep.
Speaker A:And we're like, I wonder if Mark.
Speaker A:Mark.
Speaker A:And my musical takes, I think, are a little.
Speaker A:A little more aligned and then.
Speaker A:But I was wondering, like, if you've only heard American music or only heard a little bit of Canadian music.
Speaker A:I'm like, your.
Speaker A:Your mind's going to be blown with what we can bring to the table.
Speaker A:So between me, Todd, and Corey, we thought we could bring a nice pastiche, if you will, of Canadian music hitting, you know, kind of the four corners of Music.
Speaker A:If there's.
Speaker A:Is it Four Corners, I don't know.
Speaker B:Sure.
Speaker A:To bring some, some great classic stuff, some, some newish stuff, and from rock to metal.
Speaker A:So you had an assignment, Mark, to listen to the songs, and you made it through the list without spoiling anything yet.
Speaker A:What do you, what's your opinions?
Speaker C:My opinion is, and I, I spoke a little bit about this before we went on air.
Speaker C:There are a lot of these songs that speak to my musical sensibilities and the aesthetic that I like to kind of present and the things that I enjoy.
Speaker C:So I'm really, really shocked that some of these bands just really never registered with me, like.
Speaker C:But I'm, I'm not 100 convinced that I hadn't run into some of these tracks along the way in my musical journey, because sometimes I just, sometimes I just let a music playlist just take me away, and I'm not even paying attention to who the artists are or what the song is called.
Speaker C:I just kind of just let it go.
Speaker C:Pleasantly surprised by this list.
Speaker C:There was a couple of surprises that I was saying, oh, well, of course this is on the list, and I'm very happy about that because I'm familiar.
Speaker C:But overall, yeah, this, this playlist was good for me because it spoke to all my sensibilities when it comes to the music that I like to listen to.
Speaker A:Oh, so it hit a bunch of the different tenants of what you like.
Speaker C:It did.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:We did it, guys.
Speaker A:We did it.
Speaker C:Very well done on this playlist.
Speaker A:I'm gonna, I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:When I was doing my list, I dug out the Hearts on Fire book as recommended by Biggie from the, the Booked on Rock podcast.
Speaker B:Slow Eric.
Speaker A:Yeah, Slow Eric.
Speaker E:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so, so this guy wrote a book on Canadian music.
Speaker A:There was a, there was a period of time where music broke.
Speaker A:Canadian music broke huge through the rest of the world.
Speaker A:Bands like Arcade Fire, the R Kels, the Weaker Thans, bands like that.
Speaker A:And he wrote a whole book about how all of a sudden Canadian music was huge in the States and most people didn't realize they were Canadian.
Speaker A:So I went through there.
Speaker A:And he created playlists for every chapter on Spotify, on Amazon, and on Apple for every single chapter.
Speaker A:So it's, it's, I, I went through the whole thing.
Speaker A:I spent days going through the whole thing.
Speaker A:And then I found a bunch of playlists, Canadian playlists.
Speaker A:And anyway, I, I, I probably did about 12 hours of prep work for this episode.
Speaker A:How much homework did you do, Todd?
Speaker D:Close your eyes.
Speaker D:What do you See, yeah, no, I just.
Speaker D:I just threw in a couple of songs that I, you know, that were Canadian, that were fairly iconic here, but maybe not so much in.
Speaker D:In the US I think, but there's a lot.
Speaker D:But there's a lot of bands that, I mean, like Burton Cummings, I'm sure you guys have.
Speaker D:Well, or bto, I guess, would have been a big one that they would have heard of in the States and I'm sure Triumph, maybe, I'm assuming, because they.
Speaker D:I mean, they.
Speaker D:They've done tours and stuff.
Speaker D:I guess it'd be mostly the.
Speaker D:The bigger bands that have done tours in the U.S. the smaller bands, you know, like Harlequin and.
Speaker D:And those guys.
Speaker D:I'm not sure if they actually ventured out as much as those other.
Speaker D:As those other bands.
Speaker A:I know Triumph was huge in Texas, in the Southern states, for some reason.
Speaker A:I'm not.
Speaker B:They love Power trios.
Speaker C:Yeah, that tracks, I think, based on.
Speaker C:Just based on the song that I.
Speaker C:You guys put on this list.
Speaker C:I went.
Speaker C:And I'm.
Speaker C:That's one that I'm quite sure I have heard along my journey before.
Speaker A:Seriously.
Speaker A:Okay, cool.
Speaker C:Yeah, I definitely know I knew the name Triumph.
Speaker C:I just couldn't.
Speaker C:When.
Speaker C:When I looked at the list initially on the surface, I went like, ah.
Speaker C:Which one's Triumph?
Speaker C:I know, I know that.
Speaker C:So I'd like.
Speaker C:I don't know if I've heard them.
Speaker C:And then I.
Speaker C:When I listened to this particular song, I went, I'm sure I've crossed paths with this song before.
Speaker C:And having listened to it for the show, I went.
Speaker C:And you're telling me they were big in Texas, maybe?
Speaker C:Yeah, I could see that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, they're.
Speaker A:They were.
Speaker A:At the time, them and Rush were like, probably the two biggest exports for rock bands, I think.
Speaker C:I'll tell you this right now, the biggest band in the States.
Speaker C:I'll go on record.
Speaker A:I'll.
Speaker C:I'll speak on behalf of all the American numbskulls over here.
Speaker C:The biggest band that we recognize is 100% Canadian is rush.
Speaker C:It's always going to be rushed.
Speaker C:Anytime you ask any sort of rock or metal fan name a Canadian band, it's going to be Rush every time.
Speaker C:So I'm sorry that.
Speaker C:That stereotype exists for a reason, but.
Speaker A:They're the right person.
Speaker C:They're fantastic.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And they also have.
Speaker C:It's not a thing against them, it's just they also are probably the biggest Canadian band with as much longevity, I would say.
Speaker C:I know they're not playing anymore, unfortunately, but I mean, they've earned their retirement, let's say.
Speaker C:But it's just because they've been around for so long and they have had many, many hits over the years, so.
Speaker C:Of course.
Speaker C:And also skilled musicians.
Speaker C:So even here in the States with us numbskulls, we're going to recognize when good is good.
Speaker B:Well, I mean, we first started talking about doing the show.
Speaker B:I asked Mark, like, do you know any Canadian music?
Speaker B:He goes, oh, yeah, I've heard Rush.
Speaker B:We have more than one band.
Speaker B:Seven.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I think, go ahead.
Speaker C:I was just gonna.
Speaker C:I just wanted to add to that.
Speaker C:And it's like, yes, and.
Speaker C:And I recall making the.
Speaker C:The Next Joke, which was, wait, they don't all sound like Rush.
Speaker C:And wouldn't you know it, one of the songs on this list, there's a Getty Lee cameo.
Speaker C:And I was trying really hard not to be like, I'm pretty.
Speaker C:I was like, that sounds like Getty, but I don't want to just assume that's Getty, because it's like, oh, all Canadian bands sound the same.
Speaker C:Like, well, I mean, but that guy sounds like Getty.
Speaker C:And sure enough, it's Getty, so I can be forgiven.
Speaker A:Getty also guested on.
Speaker A:On another track.
Speaker A:Which you guys played on your show.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's right.
Speaker A:Which was Take off, eh?
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:Still one of the greatest albums of all time.
Speaker A:I. I have that on CD and I still listen to it regularly.
Speaker A:Bob and Doug McKenzie.
Speaker B:That's right.
Speaker A:It's great.
Speaker A:They also did.
Speaker A:Bob and Doug also did the voices in that Brother Bear cartoon.
Speaker C:Brother Bear, Yeah.
Speaker C:Which nobody understood there.
Speaker C:Everyone was like these.
Speaker C:I don't know who's doing these voices.
Speaker C:Like, these bears are funny, but why do they sound like that?
Speaker C:It's like, you guys don't.
Speaker C:You guys don't even.
Speaker C:Like you've never seen Strange Brew.
Speaker C:You don't know cctv like the.
Speaker C:You damn kids in Canada.
Speaker A:I think that was a huge thing because it was.
Speaker A:They reunited for that.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:So it was.
Speaker A:It was like a dealing.
Speaker A:Very big deal.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:That was the.
Speaker C:The only claim to fame to that movie was that reunion.
Speaker A:I don't remember anything else in that film.
Speaker C:No, there's nothing else memorable about it.
Speaker A:I think there was a bear in it, maybe.
Speaker A:I'm not sure.
Speaker B:I'm assuming it's in the title,.
Speaker D:So.
Speaker D:So they're touching another generation of.
Speaker D:Of people now, I guess.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:With the bears.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:Well, they tried.
Speaker C:Anyway, like I said, I don't think that movie did very well.
Speaker A:Well, it did well in Canada.
Speaker A:I'M gonna guarantee you that.
Speaker C:Well, there you go.
Speaker C:That's all that matters.
Speaker A:And we're going to start with the.
Speaker A:We're just gonna play a little bit just so you guys understand like, what we're talking about.
Speaker A:So it kind of has some, some reference here.
Speaker A:So we talked about Triumph and Todd selected this one.
Speaker A:Todd, you want to give us a couple of tidbits on the song?
Speaker D:Well, growing up I had, I had learned actually the song Midsummer's Daydream, which isn't a.
Speaker D:Like a classical type piece that Rick Emmett had had written and played, but listening to other songs, it was like, wow, this is pretty cool.
Speaker D:Like you could hear a phaser and stuff, you know, with what he was playing at the beginning.
Speaker D:And when you're younger, it's like, well, what's this sound?
Speaker D:And, and how did he get this sound?
Speaker D:And you know, when you're, you know, when you're eight, nine years old, it's like, well, you don't have a clue, right?
Speaker D:But later on it's like, okay, well, he's using either a phase or a flanger or a chorus or, you know, something in a sound.
Speaker D:But yeah, this was probably one of the first bands that I had tried to, I guess, emulate.
Speaker D:So, yeah, it's a, it's a cool song.
Speaker D:Went to their concert.
Speaker D:That was the very first concert I went to, was a triumph one.
Speaker D:I think it was thunderous seven back in the mid-80s.
Speaker A:That's a great album.
Speaker D:Yeah, they had like a hologram screen in the middle of the middle of the arena where they had this face talking kind of like Max Headroom, but not really.
Speaker D:What?
Speaker D:Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker D:It's quite the thing.
Speaker A:Triumph, Magic Power Live in Halifax doesn't get much better than that.
Speaker A:I'm actually gonna put the video on because my, my introduction to this song was the video because they played it on Power Hour on much music here in Canada.
Speaker A:And I saw this and I just.
Speaker A:How they commanded the stage.
Speaker A:So I, I kind of want to play a few minutes of this just so Mark and kind of see what they look like live.
Speaker D:It's a nice 12 string intro.
Speaker D:Very nice.
Speaker C:And just got a good idea of what they probably look like live just from listening to the song and looking at like when.
Speaker C:What date did they do this?
Speaker C:Like, oh, I see.
Speaker D:Well, it's your typical 80s hair metal with the funky Dave era.
Speaker D:Pants with the stripes.
Speaker D:And you know, of course, now for.
Speaker A:Me, for me, because I was familiar with Rush.
Speaker A:And then here's another power trio from Toronto or Toronto area or Toronto adjacent.
Speaker A:And I'm like, oh, there's another band that's not from the Maritimes.
Speaker A:That was my kind of opinion, you know, another band from Toronto.
Speaker A:But then I saw them and just live, they were a bit more dynamic than Rush.
Speaker A:They were more flashy.
Speaker A:They weren't as musician wise.
Speaker A:I don't know if they were as good as Rush.
Speaker A:I mean, they're, they're.
Speaker A:They're phenomenal.
Speaker A:But I mean, Rush is at that next plateau.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:But they were a little more exciting live.
Speaker A:They're running around the stage all the time.
Speaker A:They're, you know, it.
Speaker A:Completely different kind of energy.
Speaker A:So I. I kind of.
Speaker A:I kind of dug that.
Speaker D:Where's Aha from?
Speaker C:Norway.
Speaker A:What really?
Speaker C:Aha is from Norway.
Speaker C:Why do you know that, Mark of Norway?
Speaker A:Why do you know that, Mark?
Speaker C:Because they.
Speaker D:I'm thinking of a different band.
Speaker C:That's from Norway.
Speaker B:Mark is the lead singer of a Aha Tribute band.
Speaker A:Oh, I knew.
Speaker A:I knew it.
Speaker D:Oh, are you gonna go see?
Speaker C:How did you know that?
Speaker C:You're not supposed to know that.
Speaker A:Oh, man.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then for.
Speaker A:I guess for the concert, they play one song and then get off the stage.
Speaker C:Look, let me tell you, though, and you can look this up.
Speaker C:I'm not.
Speaker C:I'm not making this up.
Speaker C:This is why I know this because I did a dive on Aha at one point.
Speaker C:Are still highly regarded in Norway.
Speaker C:You know, people make jokes that David Hasselhoff is still a king in Germany.
Speaker C:Aha.
Speaker C:Aha are gods in Norway.
Speaker A:Really.
Speaker C:I'm telling you, it's.
Speaker C:It's very.
Speaker C:It's very strange.
Speaker C:But I mean, who am I to knock it.
Speaker A:I'm writing this down.
Speaker A:Here's an episode idea.
Speaker A:Aha.
Speaker A:Norway's.
Speaker D:Whatever happened to.
Speaker D:What was the band from back home down East?
Speaker D:They were from.
Speaker D:Was it East Coast?
Speaker D:No, no, no, that's the French one.
Speaker D:No, no, it was a mainstream pop band.
Speaker A:Oh, Sloan, was it Sloan?
Speaker D:No, I'm thinking of a different one.
Speaker D:This is like mid-80s.
Speaker D:Like mid.
Speaker D:Like 84.
Speaker D:I can look it up later.
Speaker A:Okay, you gotta look it up.
Speaker A:All right, so let's.
Speaker B:Let's stadium band.
Speaker A:Let's play a little bit of this video here and then.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:This is my introduction.
Speaker A:Oh, sorry, we.
Speaker A:We missed one.
Speaker A:Sorry.
Speaker A:Corey, what was your introduction to this song?
Speaker B:Ah, geez, I'm trying to remember.
Speaker B:Probably much music.
Speaker B:I watched much music religiously as a kid.
Speaker B:That was our.
Speaker B:Our answer to.
Speaker B:To MTV and Triumph.
Speaker B:I don't think Ever really toured much around the prairies at the time.
Speaker B:Even Canadian bands skip Saskatchewan for some stupid reason.
Speaker B:But like, yeah, I never got to see a lot of the bands on this list because they just don't play Saskatchewan and Triumph is one of them.
Speaker D:They probably missed the tree when they're going down the highway.
Speaker B:Yeah, probably.
Speaker B:We were.
Speaker B:It's always a joke that Saskatchewan's the rest day, right.
Speaker B:They usually hit Winnipeg, then they get a rest day driving through Saskatchewan.
Speaker B:Then they do, you know, Calgary or Edmonton or whatever.
Speaker B:So it was kind of similar with Triumph.
Speaker B:But I was really happy when Todd put Triumph on the list, especially this track.
Speaker B:It's one of my all time favorite Triumph tunes and they're kind of known, you know.
Speaker B:Rick Emmett left the group there for a while and he was replaced by Phil X, who's a name that Mark might know.
Speaker B:He's the current lead guitar player of Bon Jovi.
Speaker B:He played in Aldo Nova and Frozen Ghost, a couple of Canadian bands.
Speaker B:So I didn't know he's actually a member of Triumph.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, cool.
Speaker C:I did know that he played in Bond plays in Bon Jovi.
Speaker C:I did not know about his previous bands.
Speaker B:Yeah, he was in.
Speaker B:He was in Triumph for a good long while.
Speaker B:And Triumph actually reformed, what, not that long ago.
Speaker B:Just two, three years ago.
Speaker B:They did a three song set for some.
Speaker B:They were being inducted in something, I think, and they got back together.
Speaker B:So who knows?
Speaker B:Maybe they get Rick Emmett back in the fold.
Speaker B:Maybe they'll pump out some new tunes.
Speaker A:That'd be great.
Speaker A:All right, let's.
Speaker A:Let's hit play.
Speaker E:Same old story all over again.
Speaker E:You turn a lover into just another friend.
Speaker E:I wanna love you I wanna make your mind.
Speaker E:Won't you lay it on the line?
Speaker E:I'm tired of playing.
Speaker E:I'm tired of all your minds making me say why don't ask for much truth will do just fine.
Speaker E:Won't you lay it on the line?
Speaker E:Let it on the line Lay it on the line.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:We could.
Speaker A:I could easily listen to all of this, but we have a show to do.
Speaker D:I want to say the.
Speaker D:The bassist.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:Kind of looks like the bassist on Spinal Tap, Derek Smalls.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:I'm just.
Speaker C:I'm just mesmerized by the vocalist's lovely bouffant that he's got.
Speaker B:Isn't that something?
Speaker D:Oh, the 84.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:And then I don't know what's going on with that drummer back there, but he's surrounded.
Speaker C:Surrounded by a drum set very, uh, Neil Peart.
Speaker C:Uh, reminiscent.
Speaker C:You really need all those.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I was going to say it's like a baby Neil Peart kit, you know?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:About 60% of what Neil had on his kit.
Speaker D:And he does a lot of singing too.
Speaker D:Yeah, he's got.
Speaker A:They both.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Sorry.
Speaker A:Go ahead, Todd.
Speaker D:Sorry.
Speaker D:You just get that big swing boom mic every once in a while you'll see him throw it in and he'll start singing.
Speaker A:They were actually co vocalists in the band, so kind of.
Speaker A:I don't know, it was half and half.
Speaker C:But this, this track.
Speaker C:And I'm not sure if the rest of Triumphs catalog kind of follows the mold, but this track kind of gives me docking and sort of like a little bit of Def Leppard vibes.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:I don't, I don't know if that's by design, but that's one thing that I noticed for sure.
Speaker C:That's why I was convinced that I have heard either this song or I've heard Triumph.
Speaker C:Somewhere down the road of my musical journey.
Speaker A:I wanted to.
Speaker A:So it's interesting.
Speaker A:Vocally, Rick Emmett kind of sounds a little bit like Getty.
Speaker A:The higher range kind of that really high range.
Speaker A:And the drummer too has a really, really high range.
Speaker A:I kind of wanted to point out this picture here.
Speaker B:Derek Smalls again.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:He's wearing, he's wearing a kimono.
Speaker D:Oh, is that what that.
Speaker A:I believe so.
Speaker A:Or a house code?
Speaker A:He just got out of bed.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:I. I can't not see a dude from Spinal Tap now.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker C:That's just, that's.
Speaker C:That's all I see.
Speaker A:But do you guys remember Rush did the kimono thing where they're all wearing kimonos?
Speaker D:Yeah, that was at the beginning.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:No, I just remember them putting up instead of stacks of cabinet speakers, just big chicken roasters or washing machines.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh yeah.
Speaker D:The snake.
Speaker D:The snakes.
Speaker D:And yeah.
Speaker D:The last two concerts.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Which.
Speaker C:Hilarious.
Speaker C:It's still, it's still funny.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The drummer, you can't see what he's doing here.
Speaker A:He's got these shades on now.
Speaker A:His voice was almost his.
Speaker A:I don't know if his voice was higher than Rick Emmett's, but it was damn high.
Speaker A:And I remember stealing the tapes out of Todd's room like I always did when we were kids.
Speaker A:And I'd put this on and you know, I'd be air.
Speaker A:Or air drumming or using the bed to drum on and then singing along and getting frustrated that there's no way in hell I would ever be able to Sing a Triumph song because of that upper register.
Speaker D:Who do you think could.
Speaker D:Okay, okay.
Speaker D:Replace him with Ingui Momstein.
Speaker D:Does he not look like a younger Inguy Malmsteen?
Speaker B:I was just thinking he wore his sunglasses at night before Corey Hart.
Speaker D:Oh, maybe.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:It's unusual for a drummer to do that.
Speaker C:Normally you'd see like, you know, a bass, the bassist or the guitarist, the vocalist, even with the shades, performing.
Speaker C:I've never seen the drummer do that.
Speaker C:No, it just seems like that's an opportunity for the glasses to just go flying off of your face, like everything.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker B:I love the Triumph spelt out on the backdrop there in, like, with the KISS lights.
Speaker C:So it's a marquee.
Speaker C:It's like a Broadway marquee.
Speaker C:We are triumphant.
Speaker A:But this band did spend a lot of money on production.
Speaker A:Like you saw at the beginning of that video.
Speaker A:There was like a big explosion, like a big fire.
Speaker C:Fire display thing made me laugh pretty good.
Speaker C:I was trying not to fall into the microphone just because I wasn't expecting that.
Speaker C:It's that abrupt explosion.
Speaker C:Just lay it on the line like, oh, but there.
Speaker A:Shows like Todd.
Speaker A:Todd can attest to.
Speaker A:The show was in Halifax.
Speaker A:I think you saw him.
Speaker B:Todd.
Speaker D:No, it was a Monkton, actually.
Speaker D:Coliseum.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:And they had like 3D visuals, like holograms and stuff.
Speaker A:Like they were doing really expensive show stuff.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:72 Newport.
Speaker D:Case of beer in the front.
Speaker D:Right in the engine compartment.
Speaker A:They actually.
Speaker A:I'm surprised they came to Moncton because New Brunswick is one of those places just like Saskatchewan, everyone just bypass them.
Speaker D:Yep, yep.
Speaker D:You're lucky when they show up.
Speaker A:Triumph came to Moncton and they went to Halifax all the time.
Speaker A:I remember that.
Speaker A:But anyway, so anyway, so that was Triumph.
Speaker A:That was Triumph.
Speaker A:So the other Ben.
Speaker A:What's the other band that we mentioned here?
Speaker A:We mentioned Devin Townsend as well.
Speaker A:So maybe we'll play that one next.
Speaker A:I'll start with Mark.
Speaker A:Mark actually has some history with Devon Townsend.
Speaker C:Would.
Speaker A:What happened when this showed up on your list?
Speaker C:I got excited because.
Speaker C:And then I was.
Speaker C:I was suddenly reminded, which is.
Speaker C:Or I was re.
Speaker C:Reminded.
Speaker C:Oh, right.
Speaker C:Devin is Canadian.
Speaker B:Duh.
Speaker C:Because I knew that because I remember at some point I.
Speaker C:It was probably during one of our talks or something of the sort of going, like, what?
Speaker C:How many Canadian bands and artists do.
Speaker C:I know?
Speaker C:That's a good question.
Speaker C:I should go through the list in my head.
Speaker C:And, you know, it's.
Speaker C:It was hard to.
Speaker C:It was actually difficult for me to go like, well, wait, are they Canadian?
Speaker C:No, they're not, but they are.
Speaker C:Okay, that's interesting.
Speaker C:They are.
Speaker C:And I remember, and I remember specifically my brain going, well, Devin should be at the top of the list because I know he's Canadian.
Speaker C:And then I just forgot.
Speaker C:So when I saw.
Speaker C:When I saw the list, I went, oh, right, Devin's Canadian.
Speaker E:Yay.
Speaker C:Because I'm a huge fan of Devin and all of his, you know, all of his band, all of the.
Speaker C:The work that he's done, whether it's Strapping Young Lad or Devin Townsend project or just Devin.
Speaker C:Devin himself.
Speaker C:Fine producer, fine musician.
Speaker C:Well, I'll say world class musician.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:So, yeah, very big fan and he's very dy.
Speaker C:He's probably one of the most dynamic and versatile vocalists in the rock and metal genre.
Speaker C:Very few people can.
Speaker C:I would.
Speaker C:I would put him in the top five of versatile vocalist just in the term that.
Speaker C:Yeah, just in the sense that he can do multiple different.
Speaker C:He's not stuck.
Speaker C:He's not pigeonholed in one particular genre.
Speaker C:He can go anywhere he wants to go.
Speaker C:Mike Patton's another guy who's very versatile,.
Speaker A:And I feel those two are exactly on par with each other.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:In terms of ability and very different vocal styles too, yet they can just.
Speaker C:They can stretch their range.
Speaker A:Yep, exactly.
Speaker A:Corey, do you have any introspection on this guy?
Speaker B:You know what?
Speaker B:Not really.
Speaker B:Haven't heard much from Devin Townsend, really.
Speaker B:The only thing I knew about him was that he sang lead vocals on the Steve Vai album Sex and Religion way back in the day.
Speaker B:But I hadn't heard a lot of Devin Townsend project or anything.
Speaker B:So this was kind of a pleasant surprise for me too.
Speaker B:When I popped it on, I'm like, oh, this?
Speaker B:I. I'm getting educated here today too.
Speaker A:Yeah, this is good.
Speaker A:What about Todd?
Speaker A:Todd, what's your experience?
Speaker A:Devin Townsend,.
Speaker D:You know what?
Speaker D:From the.
Speaker D:The sound.
Speaker D:Once I hear the song, it'll come back, but the.
Speaker D:The name doesn't really ring a bell.
Speaker C:Wow.
Speaker C:Look at that.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So I'll provide a little bit of history.
Speaker A:So I was introduced to Devin Townsend through Steve Vai's Sex and Religion.
Speaker A:Was that the album?
Speaker A:Yeah, Sex and Religion, where Steve.
Speaker A:I, Steve Vai needed to find a vocalist.
Speaker A:It's sort of like he did his.
Speaker A:His passion project, which was Passion of Warfare.
Speaker A:Sold a million albums, did really well.
Speaker A:It was the first instrumental album, sell a million albums, get nominated for Grammys, a whole bunch of stuff.
Speaker A:And it's like, what.
Speaker A:What do I do next?
Speaker A:Well, how about finding a vocalist that's is crazy on the vocals as I am on the guitar.
Speaker A:And he grabbed Devin Townsend, who's as good a vocalist as Steve.
Speaker A:I is a guitarist.
Speaker A:So he brought him in.
Speaker A:But Devin was going through his mental issues at the time.
Speaker A:He hadn't been diagnosed with the stuff he's diagnosed with.
Speaker A:I can't remember exactly what it was, but he was.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker A:I don't know if he was on medication at the time, but he was very all over the place.
Speaker C:And a lot of drugs.
Speaker C:A lot of drugs influenced that one and.
Speaker A:And drugs, too.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:So he was.
Speaker A:I don't think Steve could control him, and I don't think anybody could control him at the time.
Speaker A:And then he was out of the band.
Speaker A:And then Steve went, you know, instrumental again.
Speaker A:So that was my introduction.
Speaker A:But then this song here, which is the opening track of the Addicted album, which was a trilogy called the Devin Townsend Project Trilogy.
Speaker A:The guy I worked with brought this into work.
Speaker A:He said, sean, sit down.
Speaker A:No, sit down.
Speaker A:We had.
Speaker A:We had big subwoofers in our office, like it was a shipping department.
Speaker A:We could play the music as loud as we wanted.
Speaker A:He said, okay, now, ready?
Speaker A:And he hit play.
Speaker A:Holy shit.
Speaker A:This whole album, this Addicted album is phenomenal.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker C:You were gonna have to sit down because your knees were gonna buckle anyway because of the wall of sound that was about to hit you.
Speaker C:That's why I told you to sit.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It was just so.
Speaker A:So life changing for me.
Speaker C:It was.
Speaker A:I hadn't heard anything like this, and I'm like, this is that guy.
Speaker A:So then after that, I did a deep dive, and I have about 13 of his albums now.
Speaker A:And he has an ambient album, which is just like relaxation music, you know?
Speaker A:But he's also, as you can see here, there's a show called the charismatic voice on YouTube, which I'm a subscriber to.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:She's like, yeah, I do.
Speaker C:I've watched her videos before, and I always watch when she does Devon videos just because she just seems to have a, let's say, an experience watching and analyzing Devin's.
Speaker A:She had them on.
Speaker A:She actually had an episode where she had tea with him.
Speaker A:The inter.
Speaker A:She interviewed him.
Speaker A:They had tea together, and they talk.
Speaker C:Oh, I didn't see that one.
Speaker A:Oh, it's awesome.
Speaker A:It's awesome.
Speaker A:He's such a gentleman.
Speaker A:He's just.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker A:He's so.
Speaker A:He's so normal now and so giving.
Speaker B:He's just.
Speaker C:Anyway, relatively.
Speaker C:I don't know if you.
Speaker C:If you follow his Twitter and Instagram, you might say, like, oh, okay.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:No, not really.
Speaker C:He's not that.
Speaker A:Oh, really?
Speaker A:Okay, Well, I don't.
Speaker C:Maybe he's a buffoon, but, like, in the best.
Speaker C:Best sort of way, just because if you listen to any.
Speaker C:Any of his music, he's like, okay.
Speaker C:So he.
Speaker C:He approaches the music in a very professional, like, analytic way.
Speaker C:But his presentation sometimes is like, what the hell is.
Speaker C:Is going on through his head?
Speaker C:Man, this guy's weird.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Okay, I'm going to hit play.
Speaker D:I'm curious.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Are you sitting down, Todd?
Speaker A:This is that song that you have to sit down for.
Speaker A:Are you sitting down?
Speaker B:I'm.
Speaker B:I'm sitting.
Speaker B:I'm ready.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker E:It.
Speaker E:Sam,.
Speaker C:Sorry.
Speaker A:I want to make sure we get the different levels of vocal that he does, because you can hear him screaming.
Speaker A:And then I can't remember the vocalist he had on this.
Speaker A:The secondary vocal is.
Speaker A:He had.
Speaker C:This is the woman that he continuously, I think, since this album and throughout, he.
Speaker C:He keeps bringing her back.
Speaker C:Yes, he does.
Speaker C:I am.
Speaker C:I am struggling on her name right now.
Speaker C:I apologize.
Speaker C:But it's.
Speaker C:It's basically once she.
Speaker C:Yeah, you could probably look it up.
Speaker C:Once she entered the fray, she's been a constant.
Speaker C:And in his albums, it's not his wife.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:It's another lady who's just a fantastic vocalist, I think.
Speaker B:Well, on the person on the album, they have Annika Van Giersberg.
Speaker A:That's who it is.
Speaker C:Annika.
Speaker A:That's it.
Speaker C:Thank you.
Speaker C:Thank you.
Speaker A:Yeah, she.
Speaker A:She's great.
Speaker A:She actually sings lead on, I think, a couple tracks on this album.
Speaker C:But she does hyperdrive, especially.
Speaker A:Yes, that's right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So he.
Speaker A:His vocally, he can do anything.
Speaker A:He could do straight opera.
Speaker A:He can do the ultra screaming.
Speaker A:There isn't anything he can't do.
Speaker A:And then he's also an amazing guitar player, an amazing producer, and he has a wall of sound.
Speaker C:Everything he does, that's kind of how he approached because he's also produced.
Speaker C:He produces his albums.
Speaker C:And that's literally the phrase he.
Speaker C:He uses as the approach to each album is to create the wall of sound.
Speaker C:And when you listen to it on record, it's.
Speaker C:It shows because it's just so much sound just coming at you at once.
Speaker C:But I tell you, though, as much as I like this track, this is the only one.
Speaker C:This is the only person on your list that I straight up knew and I knew the song right away.
Speaker C:But as much.
Speaker C:As much as I like addicted.
Speaker C:If you guys, to your listeners, if you Re, if you don't know Devin Townsend and you really want a good example of what he can do per song, look up the song Kingdom from his album Epic Cloud.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, that.
Speaker C:I mean, first of all, that whole.
Speaker C:As far as I'm concerned, that album is his like Ninth Symphony just in terms of versatility.
Speaker C:But Kingdom is absolutely everything.
Speaker C:Like, if you want a good example of what Devin can do musically and vote, especially vocally, all wrapped into one song, it's that one.
Speaker C:Most especially.
Speaker D:This guy's like a chameleon.
Speaker A:Yes, definitely.
Speaker C:He really.
Speaker D:So I was expecting to hear, well, I want to play, you know, stuff just like Vi does.
Speaker D:And I'm thinking, well, that's not Vi, that's like death metal.
Speaker C:He definitely.
Speaker C:He doesn't play like Vi, but he.
Speaker C:I mean, he's still.
Speaker C:That doesn't deter his ability to play guitar for sure.
Speaker C:He's.
Speaker C:But he's very rhythm based.
Speaker C:Am I correct?
Speaker C:You guys are not familiar with Strapping Young Lad?
Speaker A:Oh, I am.
Speaker A:I definitely.
Speaker C:Oh, okay, okay.
Speaker C:That was his first band where it's just basically just a death metal band.
Speaker C:And he played guitar and did vocals and he was the rhythm guy, but he did.
Speaker C:There's not a ton of solos in that band.
Speaker C:So he's very rhythm based.
Speaker C:So that's why when you listen Devin Townsend Project, you're not going to hear a lot of crazy solos from him just because, you know, he's sticking with the rhythm.
Speaker A:Here's a picture of a strapping young.
Speaker D:Lad, looks like Kim Mitchell.
Speaker D:Oh my.
Speaker C:The Glorious Skullets.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Kim Mitchell on a 14 day bender.
Speaker D:Yeah, back in.
Speaker B:That guy hasn't awesome.
Speaker D:Back in the early 90s.
Speaker A:Oh my God.
Speaker C:He went from.
Speaker C:He went from looking like Meth Hulk Hogan to Lord Voldemort.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Look at that, man.
Speaker A:Jesus Christ.
Speaker A:But you know what?
Speaker A:Like, I met like I met him at a show, right?
Speaker A:And just the nicest gentleman.
Speaker A:I was like so stunned with how nice he was.
Speaker A:And there was some kid there that was having.
Speaker A:That had some.
Speaker A:Was having some issues with depression and stuff.
Speaker A:And he spent 15 minutes with this kid just to make sure he was okay.
Speaker A:So, you know, your music gets me through all these hard times and I can't remember if the kid was bipolar or something, but you know, he's like, your music's helped save me.
Speaker A:And he took the time regardless.
Speaker A:Everyone else was like, we want our time with Devin.
Speaker A:And he's like, I gotta look, I have to talk to this kid.
Speaker A:Like, this is my job as a Musician.
Speaker A:And he actually took the time.
Speaker A:So that actually impressed the hell.
Speaker C:That's awesome.
Speaker D:Yeah, music's very powerful.
Speaker D:Very powerful.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker A:So on this.
Speaker A:Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker C:I was just gonna say.
Speaker C:Well, it's.
Speaker C:It's good to.
Speaker C:To know that there are.
Speaker C:You know, it's.
Speaker C:It's nice when a musician can recognize when they are.
Speaker C:When they're called up to kind of.
Speaker C:They taking the responsibility of like, okay, this fan, you know, sees me in a high regard and my music obviously did something for them.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker C:It's nice when a musician actually takes the time to acknowledge that and to make sure that everything's copacetic, because there's a lot of musicians that they don't give a shit.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, no, very true.
Speaker D:But for a musician, I mean, to know that someone has been affected by your music is such a compliment also.
Speaker D:And to know that you're helping someone, which is kind of twofold, it makes the musician feel just as good as the person who's listening to the music.
Speaker C:That's right.
Speaker A:So you had mentioned that he looked like Kim Mitchell after a.
Speaker D:Here we go.
Speaker B:Tell me I'm wrong.
Speaker A:So here's a picture of Kim Mitchell back in the day.
Speaker A:Now this is post Max Webster, and he had his big.
Speaker A:Was he always old?
Speaker A:I think so.
Speaker C:He.
Speaker D:He looks.
Speaker C:Because he, like.
Speaker C:All these pictures I'm seeing are obviously from different eras, but his face looks the same.
Speaker E:Look at that.
Speaker A:This is probably when they did Battle Scar, I'm guessing.
Speaker B:Probably, yeah.
Speaker B:Back in the Max Webster days.
Speaker B:Oh,.
Speaker A:This is so cute.
Speaker A:I don't know why it's getting me.
Speaker B:I. I think it's the way Kim Mitchell is.
Speaker B:Is holding Getty with, but just holding.
Speaker C:Gettys like he's his grandma or something.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So Max Webster was Kim Mitchell's band before he decided to go solo.
Speaker A:And, boy, that music was all over the place.
Speaker A:It was really bizarre.
Speaker A:Would it be considered progressive like prog rock or Corey?
Speaker A:What do you think?
Speaker B:Oh, I think some of it, for sure.
Speaker B:You could consider Prague Rock.
Speaker B:They're kind of new, wavy punk.
Speaker B:You throw some folk in there.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:Like you said, Max Webster kind of checked all the boxes.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And they had.
Speaker A:They had some rocking tunes too, like Hangover or Check.
Speaker A:Like, those songs were just good rockers, but they did.
Speaker A:So they did bring Gideon to do a song together, which has been covered a number of times by heavier acts.
Speaker A:We're gonna play that just to kind of introduce.
Speaker A:Introduce us to who Kim Mitchell was before he went solo.
Speaker A:And then we'll maybe bookmark that.
Speaker A:With what he did when he was solo and the difference in sound that he had, I think that might be a nice way to look at it.
Speaker A:So here's Battle Scar.
Speaker A:Max Webster,.
Speaker E:Satan.
Speaker E:Thousand years found a fist in an empty field Only quarters for me, I feel.
Speaker E:And the white man's fe Make a bed.
Speaker A:Oh, Getty.
Speaker C:Goosebumps.
Speaker B:Not just Getty.
Speaker B:That's Alex and Neil playing on that too.
Speaker B:Rush was playing along with Max Webster while they recorded that.
Speaker B:Oh, really?
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:While I was listening to this song, and I had already had in my mind the whole joke between Corey and I was like, wait a minute.
Speaker C:All.
Speaker C:All Canadian bands don't sound like Rush.
Speaker C:What up?
Speaker C:That sounds like malarkey.
Speaker C:And then I listened to this song, and lo.
Speaker C:And I was like, wait a damn minute.
Speaker C:Like, oh, it is Rush.
Speaker B:Well, when you hear that bass, it's pretty unmistakable, right?
Speaker A:Oh, God, yeah.
Speaker C:Well, I was going to ask.
Speaker C:So Getty played bass and did vocals in this?
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker B:Or.
Speaker C:And now you're saying, like, the entire band was involved with this song?
Speaker B:Yeah, Alex Neil recorded this too.
Speaker A:And Kim Mitchell's.
Speaker A:Kim Mitchell's the original.
Speaker A:Like, the guy who starts singing.
Speaker D:Yeah, sure.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:So, yeah.
Speaker A:So that was Battle score.
Speaker A:So I guess let's just go right into.
Speaker A:Go first, go for a soda.
Speaker A:I think we need to watch the video, though, don't we?
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:I imagine there's.
Speaker C:There's got to be a video to this song.
Speaker C:This.
Speaker A:This was.
Speaker C:This is the one song that I was just kind of like.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker D:It was a mainstream song back in the 80s.
Speaker B:I believe it was a hit in America, too.
Speaker B:I thought that it actually charted in the States.
Speaker C:I mean, it probably did.
Speaker C:But this was.
Speaker C:That was before my turn.
Speaker A:So this is what this is.
Speaker A:I get.
Speaker A:This was his.
Speaker A:His.
Speaker A:Okay, look at me.
Speaker A:I'm Kim Mitchell from Max Webster.
Speaker A:This is his kind of his big.
Speaker A:And I do want to say Todd, and you'll probably agree with me, this is the video that our old buddy Bugamo shows up in.
Speaker A:Ah.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker A:You ready?
Speaker D:Sure.
Speaker E:Give me that.
Speaker C:Wow.
Speaker A:Say, greek business.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker C:This bloke,.
Speaker D:60S furniture.
Speaker C:What my hair looked like before it fell down.
Speaker A:Whoa.
Speaker A:Special effects.
Speaker B:He jumps right out of the tv.
Speaker C:Tiny Kim.
Speaker B:Look at that outfit.
Speaker B:My goodness.
Speaker A:Watches.
Speaker A:More special effects.
Speaker A:All right,.
Speaker C:So, Mark, not a fat, curly hair dude.
Speaker C:The curlier dude looks like Dustin from Stranger Things for one thing.
Speaker C:That's hilarious.
Speaker B:She looks like fat Scream Preach for us older guys.
Speaker C:Yeah, he looks like.
Speaker A:That's My buddy.
Speaker A:But one of the guitarists I. I grew up just loving was.
Speaker A:Was Bugamo.
Speaker A:He was.
Speaker A:He looked exactly like this guy.
Speaker A:And I got excited like, oh, my God, that's him.
Speaker A:That's him.
Speaker A:But it's not him.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker C:You can be forgiven of thinking it was like, well, it looks like him.
Speaker C:So it's not that I'm not a fan.
Speaker C:I just, like, this was the kind of.
Speaker C:The one I went, yeah, all right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:It's like, I could.
Speaker C:I could see why this would be.
Speaker C:I mean, it's catchy.
Speaker C:It's a catchy little rock tune.
Speaker C:Not necessarily my favorite on the list, but it's like, you know, you can't win them all or.
Speaker D:A fun zone.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah, it's fun.
Speaker C:That being said, I'm sure Kim Mitchell, even solo, probably had some.
Speaker C:Some pretty good bangers.
Speaker A:We're gonna play this one right after, see.
Speaker C:Rock and Roll Duty, I think, is the one that I.
Speaker C:You know, it maybe I might know this one.
Speaker B:It's definitely more up your alley, I think.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:All right, let's just play it real quick here.
Speaker A:Everybody's all set.
Speaker C:Now.
Speaker C:He looks like Stevie Ray Vaughan.
Speaker A:Let's do Rock and Roll Duty.
Speaker A:You guys want to do that for the sound check?
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker C:I definitely know this.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:Turn up the drums.
Speaker E:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker E:Turn up my bag.
Speaker A:That is.
Speaker A:That's probably one of the songs Todd's played the most.
Speaker D:Yeah, it's kind of like the Canadian Huey Lewis.
Speaker B:That's a good comparison.
Speaker C:I thought the Canadian Huey Lewis was Brian Adams.
Speaker B:No, he's the Canadian.
Speaker B:He's the Canadian Bruce Springsteen.
Speaker D:Yes.
Speaker A:Oh, you know.
Speaker A:Oh, God.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:Good call.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Thinking about the plight of the Canadian man, what I like is Kim Mitchell's playing in a bar, doing a sound check, and he's got, like, a grizzled old prospector playing solitaire or something during the sound check.
Speaker A:It's awesome.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:We could do a whole podcast about Kim Mitchell.
Speaker A:I'm just.
Speaker A:I'm just realizing now, just Kim Mitchell videos.
Speaker B:I mean, throw on easy to tame.
Speaker B:That's a pretty good one.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:Do I got to do it now?
Speaker B:Sorry.
Speaker A:Damn you, Corey.
Speaker A:Yeah, his videos are always good.
Speaker A:It's just the official video here.
Speaker D:Oh.
Speaker A:Not awesome sound quality, but.
Speaker C:Oh, boy.
Speaker B:Oh, it's intentional.
Speaker B:But the static, maybe.
Speaker A:I think so.
Speaker E:What am I doing to make you so sad?
Speaker E:What am I doing to make you so sad?
Speaker A:Okay, wait a minute.
Speaker A:This just a jigalo.
Speaker C:This is.
Speaker A:It's got the vibes of the Just a Gigolo video.
Speaker D:It does.
Speaker B:Yeah, maybe so there you go.
Speaker C:Same person.
Speaker D:Didn't Dave.
Speaker B:Kim Mitchell's the Canadian David Lee Rock.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker A:But he was always fun.
Speaker A:Like fun guy.
Speaker A:Sorry, go ahead.
Speaker C:Suddenly.
Speaker C:Suddenly.
Speaker C:Go for soda.
Speaker C:Doesn't sound so bad after this one.
Speaker A:So the other thing is he had.
Speaker A:So in his solo band, he had a co vocalist who sang who co. Saying some of the other songs.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:PI Dubois, who is.
Speaker A:I don't know, phenomenal.
Speaker B:Still touring with them too.
Speaker B:I saw Kim Mitchell a couple years ago at Casino Regina and PI Dubois with them and.
Speaker A:Oh, really?
Speaker B:Giving that classic Mitchell sound.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's awesome.
Speaker D:Yeah, it's like the bass player from all the notes.
Speaker A:But anyways, he's all over the place.
Speaker A:Like he can play any kind of music.
Speaker A:He's got some Logger nail.
Speaker A:Is.
Speaker B:That's a good heavy one.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:It's just.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Todd.
Speaker A:Todd plays a lot of Kim Mitchell in his cover.
Speaker D:They're fun.
Speaker D:They're fun songs.
Speaker D:Kim Kim's songs are usually.
Speaker D:You know, he looks like it.
Speaker D:Like when he's making his videos.
Speaker D:You can tell he's just trying to have fun.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Any.
Speaker A:Anything else on Mr. Mitchell?
Speaker B:Still kicking it.
Speaker B:I know he's playing a casino Moose Jaw here not that long from now.
Speaker B:I'm gonna go try and check him out again.
Speaker B:Puts on a good show like.
Speaker B:Like Todd said, it's fun and a little bit of everything.
Speaker B:Go for Soda is a catchy little tune.
Speaker B:You got kind of mellower stuff like this.
Speaker B:Patio Lanterns, of course, was his big hit.
Speaker D:Oh.
Speaker B:Back in the 80s.
Speaker B:Big in Canada.
Speaker B:Never charted anywhere else.
Speaker B:But I always.
Speaker B:I'll pop on Kim Mitchell's greatest hits on a Sunday when I'm cleaning around the house and have a good time.
Speaker D:Oral Fixations was the better.
Speaker D:Was the best album, I think.
Speaker A:But Moral Fixations,.
Speaker D:There are more obscure songs because they didn't really have a whole lot of them on the radio.
Speaker D:But like, from front to back, it's.
Speaker D:It's a good album.
Speaker A:What do we want to put on next, Todd, what do you think?
Speaker C:Killer Dwarfs.
Speaker D:There you go.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:All right, Todd, your introduction to Killer Dwarfs.
Speaker A:What was your Killer Dwarfs?
Speaker D:My introduction was.
Speaker D:It was either much music or.
Speaker A:Metal for Breakfast.
Speaker D:Yes, I believe it was Metal for Breakfast Back.
Speaker D:Back in the old days when we had.
Speaker D:Was it Teen Encounter.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker D:With.
Speaker D:With Wayne LeBlanc, we had metal for Breakfast playing on the.
Speaker D:On his tape deck.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:Those were the days.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker A:You Got to give context.
Speaker A:Everyone's like, I don't know what Todd's talking about.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I'm like, what?
Speaker D:Well, this.
Speaker D:It's.
Speaker D:They used to have a thing called Marriage Encounter.
Speaker D:I don't know if they still do or not, but it was.
Speaker D:I don't know, it was put on by the Catholic Church or something.
Speaker D:It was pretty much a weekend getaway thing.
Speaker D:And they.
Speaker D:They kind of.
Speaker D:I know.
Speaker D:It was kind of one of those therapy things for couples.
Speaker D:And I guess they had.
Speaker D:They had one for teens and we just kind of got hooped into it without knowing.
Speaker D:Yeah, we're going to this thing with all these teens.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay, cool.
Speaker D:And we get there, it's like, oh, you can leave church.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:So.
Speaker D:But yeah, on our way out there, that's.
Speaker D:That's what we were playing.
Speaker D:And it was.
Speaker D:It was a good.
Speaker D:It was a good album.
Speaker D:And some of their stuff was.
Speaker D:Was really good, too.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:So, yeah, that was my.
Speaker A:So that was a compilation album that you discovered them on?
Speaker D:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker D:Like one of those K Tel.
Speaker D:Not K Tel, but Metal for Breakfast.
Speaker D:Kind of the same idea.
Speaker D:Was just kind of a mishmash of a bunch of metal bands at the time.
Speaker A:Corey.
Speaker B:Well, I remember back in the early 80s, before I had much music.
Speaker B:We had Good Rocking Tonight on cbc, hosted by Terry David Mulligan.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:And Stu Jeffries.
Speaker B:And they used to play killer Dwarf videos all the time.
Speaker B:So that was probably my first introduction to them.
Speaker A:Oh, my God, that was such a great show.
Speaker A:Terry David Mulligan is.
Speaker A:You should go back to music.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker B:He really should.
Speaker A:He's a famous reporter and stuff for.
Speaker A:Was it CNN or wherever the hell he went to.
Speaker A:But I don't know, man.
Speaker A:His.
Speaker A:He was a good music journalist.
Speaker A:The best, in my opinion.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I'll never forget Good Rockin Tonight because I answered a trivia question on the show.
Speaker B:And the prize I got was a hunt for Red October ball cap.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:Which I still have kicking around somewhere.
Speaker B:I don't remember the trivia question, but I still have the hunt for Red October ball cap.
Speaker C:I hope it doesn't have a, you know, hammer and sickle on it.
Speaker B:It did, actually.
Speaker C:Oh, no.
Speaker C:Oh, no.
Speaker C:Don't ever pull that out.
Speaker D:Ever.
Speaker D:Oh, man.
Speaker A:What about you, Merc?
Speaker C:My introduction to this was this list that you guys sent me.
Speaker A:No, come on.
Speaker C:Because Corey even said, like, you might know the Killer Dwarves.
Speaker C:And I was like, the name does not ring a bell when I listen to the song.
Speaker C:This is another one where I thought maybe Maybe in passing.
Speaker C:I have heard, if not this song, maybe this.
Speaker C:This band at some point.
Speaker C:But I mean, honestly.
Speaker C:And I was looking through a lot of their catalog and I was going, I don't know.
Speaker C:I really don't know if I've ever come across this band or not.
Speaker A:They were.
Speaker A:They were mistaken for a new wave of British heavy metal band.
Speaker A:And a lot of.
Speaker A:A lot of the globe thought they were from England.
Speaker C:So I could see that based.
Speaker C:Based on how this one sounds.
Speaker A:And I think they were bigger over in Europe than they were Canada.
Speaker A:I don't think they were that big in Canada.
Speaker A:I think they're kind of big everywhere else.
Speaker A:We had Daryl the.
Speaker A:The drummer.
Speaker A:We actually had him on the show.
Speaker A:We just approached him.
Speaker A:Hey, you want to be in the show?
Speaker A:He goes, sure.
Speaker A:And it was literally that simple.
Speaker C:And there you go.
Speaker A:What a gentleman.
Speaker A:And I actually got to see him.
Speaker A:This is a Bucket List concert I've always wanted to see was the Dwarves, and I saw them open for Skid Row and Pantera.
Speaker C:That was.
Speaker A:That was.
Speaker A:It was those three bands.
Speaker A:And during the Skid Row set, I told the story before.
Speaker A:I'll tell it again.
Speaker A:During the Skid Row set, Sebastian Bach brought out Russell the.
Speaker A:The singer.
Speaker A:Wait, Russell?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:Yeah, Russell.
Speaker A:Sorry, Russell, the singer brought him out and they had a sing off in the middle of a set.
Speaker A:It was literally like Baz would like sing a line and then the Dwarfs guy would do it, emulate it, and then back and forth, and then it was like they would one up each other.
Speaker A:So of course I'm gonna sing, the other guy's gonna go.
Speaker A:And then they just going higher and higher and higher and higher.
Speaker A:That's lost.
Speaker C:He lost.
Speaker C:Oh, wow.
Speaker A:Completely lost.
Speaker A:Russell's upper register is ridiculously high.
Speaker A:And he hasn't lost it.
Speaker A:Like we just saw.
Speaker A:Like I said, I just saw him a few weeks ago and he still sounds amazing.
Speaker C:That's surprising.
Speaker C:Back in.
Speaker C:I mean, Sebastian's like, in his heyday, man.
Speaker C:He.
Speaker C:He was almost untouchable.
Speaker A:This was Slave to the Grind era, that this, this show was slave to the grind.
Speaker A:And they're a vulgar.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, that was one of the best shows ever.
Speaker C:I have heard of this tour.
Speaker C:So the fact that Killer Dwarfs was on that tour.
Speaker C:Okay, cool.
Speaker C:So then they got introduced to a lot of American audiences then.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:Yeah, it makes it more surprising that.
Speaker C:That I don't have, like a clear recollection of having listened to them, because now I'm almost positive I've come across them before, but not this song until.
Speaker A:This list right now, this was off the first album, which was on Attic Records, which was a Canadian label.
Speaker A:They.
Speaker A:Well, as you can go back and listen to our episode, it'll tell us all about Attic Records.
Speaker A:But they basically took the deal that you can be on the label.
Speaker A:We're not going to pay you a cent, but we'll.
Speaker A:We'll finance.
Speaker A:We'll finance.
Speaker A:You'll have music videos, you'll get airplay, you'll get tours, but you're not going to get paid for the album at all.
Speaker C:So basically.
Speaker C:Basically how the record labels run these days.
Speaker A:Yes, pretty much, yeah.
Speaker B:Pretty much, yeah.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:But it broke them, right?
Speaker A:Like, it broke them.
Speaker A:They got to open for.
Speaker A:They get to play with Iron Maiden.
Speaker A:They get to play with, like, a lot of huge bands that were.
Speaker A:And they became friends with all these people.
Speaker A:Nikki Sixx produced Daryl's.
Speaker A:He had a band called Ottoman.
Speaker A:I think it was Ottoman that he was talking about.
Speaker A:I think he produced an Ottoman record of his.
Speaker C:I've heard of that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I think he might be the vocalist in that.
Speaker A:I'm not sure.
Speaker A:The drummer might be the vocalist in that one.
Speaker A:I'm not sure.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker A:But anyway, they're.
Speaker A:They're.
Speaker A:I love these guys.
Speaker D:And it's.
Speaker A:It's weird that I get a chance to talk to Daryl.
Speaker A:Like, it's bizarre.
Speaker A:But anyway, let's play the song.
Speaker A:So this was their introduction to the world.
Speaker E:Sam waiting for a laptop for this thing to break.
Speaker E:People give me hassle Just give me me.
Speaker A:A soundtrack for me while I'm working.
Speaker C:Is it a.
Speaker D:Is.
Speaker C:Is it like a mandate that was sent out that all Canadian heavy metal singers have to have, like, a high upper range?
Speaker C:Like, is that just how.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's the weather when.
Speaker B:When things get cold when.
Speaker B:When the berries get frozen.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:The voice goes up.
Speaker C:So apparently so.
Speaker C:So, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:It makes.
Speaker C:Makes total sense that these guys played with.
Speaker C:With Maiden because this.
Speaker C:This song gave me some.
Speaker C:Some big, like, Maiden and, like, Early Priest vibes.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, definitely.
Speaker C:Which is why I was kind of like, I. I just feel like I've come across this band at some point, but I just couldn't pull the name.
Speaker C:But yeah, it's.
Speaker C:It's very, very reminiscent of the time when this came out.
Speaker C:Not.
Speaker C:And that's not a bad thing.
Speaker C:That's just like.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, it sounds like one of those bands.
Speaker A:I'm not going to play them, but they did a trilogy of videos from their second album where it tells a story.
Speaker A:We Stand Alone, Keep the Spirit alive and shit was the other one Now Stand Tall.
Speaker A:Basically it was telling the story of this indie band.
Speaker A:Wow, this is very recent, this show here.
Speaker C:Yeah, it was back.
Speaker A:Wait a minute.
Speaker A:This is.
Speaker A:This.
Speaker A:Was this a show?
Speaker A: Was that: Speaker D:Yeah, July 30th.
Speaker A:This lady looks very familiar.
Speaker A:There was a lady in the audience, like photographing everything.
Speaker C:Anyway, maybe that's their touring photographer or something.
Speaker A:Yeah, maybe so.
Speaker A:Anyway, so it was a trilogy of videos that basically talked about how they get signed to a record label, how they were asked to sell out and all get tans and have particular haircuts and dress particular ways.
Speaker A:And then the third video was how they broke off from the record label, went independent, made their own records and self released their stuff.
Speaker C:It's very meta.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:Yeah, very meta.
Speaker A:Very, very smart.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And the videos are just great.
Speaker A:And basically Russ.
Speaker A:Russ, the singer, he's kind of played off as the.
Speaker A:He's.
Speaker A:He's a dwarf.
Speaker A:He comes out to the stage in a crate.
Speaker A:They open the crate, he jumps out of the crate and after the show they shove him right back in the crate and go to the next town.
Speaker A:So he's interesting.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's their shtick.
Speaker C:Is he a short fellow?
Speaker A:Yeah, he's.
Speaker A:Yeah, he's very short.
Speaker A:He's like 54 or something.
Speaker C:Oh, so he's like the singer for Accept.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Anyway, let's move on to the list.
Speaker A:I kind of want to play this one for Corey here.
Speaker A:Do we want to put some pikes on here?
Speaker B:Oh, I'm absolutely ready for some pikes.
Speaker B:I wanted to pick one a band from Saskatchewan, and I'm not a big fan of the Sheepdogs, which is kind of the other big band from Saskatchewan.
Speaker B:So I had to put a little Northern Pikes on here, I think.
Speaker B:Mark, in an earlier conversation I mentioned the one track they did that charted in the States was a song called she Ain't Pretty.
Speaker B:And you had mentioned you thought you had heard that one.
Speaker B:So yeah, I tried to go a little bit.
Speaker B:A little different here, a little more up tempo.
Speaker A:I appreciate that.
Speaker A:I've played she Ain't Pretty so many times.
Speaker A:Alive.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Drum still one of my favorite songs.
Speaker B:But yeah, I always thought this was an underrated song by the pike, so I agree.
Speaker A:Okay, let's take a listen here.
Speaker E:Nothing can happen with these wicked lies we lead everything goes wrong and then I come back Waiting on my knees and she spins my head around just like a twister she shakes me up When I sit down Just like a twister Turn the lights down low we.
Speaker E:Because your daddy's coming home I didn't want him Find me somewhere I don't belong Romeo, where to live so perfect in the dark no one else could hear us when we're questing Turn our silver part right here Just like a twister.
Speaker A:Oh, man, that's such a good song.
Speaker C:It's very blues.
Speaker C:Very kind of like.
Speaker C:I. I don't want to use the term outlaw country because I really don't like.
Speaker C:What the hell does that.
Speaker C:What the hell does that mean?
Speaker C:But like, kind of ironically, like Americana sort of sounding at least.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Which ironic because not even close, but being a Canadian band and all.
Speaker C:But the song, this song in particular sounds like one of those and very, very 90s sort of instilled, you know, the 90s were an interesting time for rock music because you had all walks of life giving you all sort of different genres blended together.
Speaker C:It wasn't all just grunge and moody music.
Speaker C:There was a lot of.
Speaker C:A lot of differences.
Speaker C:And this.
Speaker C:This kind of reminds me of.
Speaker C:Of that era, which I believe this is One of the 90s era songs on this list.
Speaker C:If I'm not right.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker C:There you go.
Speaker B:I wanted a song that if Mark ever came to visit me in Saskatchewan, we sat down at a bar, this would probably be playing on the jukebox or a song like it.
Speaker C:It's a bar song.
Speaker C:It's absolutely a bar.
Speaker C:So that's.
Speaker C:That's what I mean when I say outlaw country.
Speaker C:I was like, no, what I really mean is it's a bar song.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker C:And I.
Speaker C:And I dig bar tunes.
Speaker A:Todd, you're.
Speaker A:You're.
Speaker A:What's you with this band?
Speaker D:Well, the band itself.
Speaker D:This song is first time I've heard it.
Speaker D:I've never heard the song before.
Speaker A:Oh, no.
Speaker A:Oh, wow.
Speaker D:No.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker D:No, but it is.
Speaker D:It is in their wheelhouse Ish style.
Speaker D:Yep.
Speaker D:But yeah, I was amazed to hear it had kind of some.
Speaker D:Some blues tendencies in there because they weren't really.
Speaker D:It was more of a pop, like you said.
Speaker D:The song that you were.
Speaker D:You were saying that you.
Speaker D:You hear all the time.
Speaker D:That was more what I was used to hearing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:So this just kind of shifts it just a little bit.
Speaker D:But.
Speaker D:But it's good.
Speaker D:I like it.
Speaker B:And the Pikes are still out there.
Speaker B:They got Kevin Kane from the Grapes of Wrath, another Canadian band.
Speaker A:Oh, wow.
Speaker B:He's playing rhythm with them right now.
Speaker B:They're out there touring Graves of Wrath.
Speaker A:Well, that was a big one.
Speaker A:That's one that easily could have been on the list.
Speaker A:I want let's stick to the same sort of not formula, but same style.
Speaker A:Let's or not me.
Speaker A:Well, I don't know, I. I feel this band is the same era too.
Speaker A:They're band called the Odds.
Speaker A:They had a couple of massive hits.
Speaker A:I'm surprised Hudson current Ben doesn't play either one.
Speaker A:I'm really shocked actually.
Speaker D:It's whatever Dan comes up with.
Speaker D:Yeah, he'll show up at a practice.
Speaker D:Hey, let's try this one.
Speaker D:So I was like, okay, let's try it.
Speaker B:So I put this on the list because I know Mark's a big Kids in the hall fan and the kids in the hall are actually in this video for this song.
Speaker A:Oh, okay.
Speaker A:Well then we got to put it on.
Speaker C:That makes.
Speaker C:That makes so much sense.
Speaker C:Of course.
Speaker C:Of course they would be on the song.
Speaker A:Here, I'm gonna put it on here.
Speaker D:And action.
Speaker C:Hi, we're the Mixed Knots and we're gonna do an improv for you.
Speaker A:So what we want for you is.
Speaker C:A topic heterosexual men.
Speaker E:Okay.
Speaker A:Can we have a band now?
Speaker A:The odds and it could be at the genre rock video.
Speaker E:I'll give you funny hat.
Speaker D:God.
Speaker A:I want to make every woman I.
Speaker E:See I want to make every woman.
Speaker A:I see do you know what?
Speaker A:What's the matter with me?
Speaker A:I'm a heterosexual man Just a heterosexual.
Speaker E:Man.
Speaker A:I wanna do every woman I know I wanna do it to them.
Speaker E:In their clothes I wanna make it.
Speaker A:With them don't you know I'm a heterosexual man?
Speaker E:It's just a problem with my plan.
Speaker A:Oh my God.
Speaker A:Todd, why is your band not doing this song?
Speaker A:You as the bass player would kill on this song.
Speaker A:You got to bring this and you.
Speaker B:Got to do it in drag.
Speaker C:You have to do it in drag.
Speaker C:You absolutely have to.
Speaker D:Well, that's like on some of the songs, like when you're playing a cheap sunglasses and then you put the sunglasses on or if you, you know any, any type of song that.
Speaker D:That has a prop to it.
Speaker D:Yeah, just see.
Speaker D:Yeah, no, I don't know if we would do that.
Speaker D:But the song.
Speaker D:You know what?
Speaker D:I'll bring it up and we'll see what the.
Speaker D:We'll see what they say.
Speaker C:I think it would have been funnier if they had gotten Scott Thompson in on this video for the obvious irony of it all.
Speaker A:Yes, yes, you're right.
Speaker C:That would have been just hysterical.
Speaker B:I don't know why Scott and Bruce weren't in the Video.
Speaker B:It was just the.
Speaker B:The other three, but maybe they just.
Speaker C:Weren't into the idea.
Speaker C:I was like, no, we're not doing that.
Speaker C:That sounds stupid.
Speaker A:You know what?
Speaker A:I've never seen this video before.
Speaker A:This is.
Speaker A:This is great.
Speaker B:Oh, great video.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:And by the end, everybody's in drag.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Naturally.
Speaker D:I like to make their songs fun.
Speaker D:Canadians like to make their songs fun.
Speaker A:For some reason, but always, like, great musicianship.
Speaker A:Like, the musicianship on the song is, like, ridiculously amazing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Mark, what do you think?
Speaker C:Yeah, I love that.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:It's very.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker C:It's a very ironic song, just in the sense of, like, please don't take this seriously.
Speaker C:Like, this is like, we're here to have fun.
Speaker C:This is a fun song.
Speaker C:Look at the video, for God's sakes.
Speaker C:This is like, we're not.
Speaker C:We're.
Speaker C:We're poking fun at, like.
Speaker C:I feel like this song is just a direct poking fun of, like, you know, toxic masculinity, even back then.
Speaker D:Yes.
Speaker C:Like, just straight up.
Speaker C:And even if you look at the band, it's like.
Speaker C:Like, look at how.
Speaker C:Look at how we look.
Speaker C:Like, if you're.
Speaker C:If you're gonna take us seriously with.
Speaker A:This song, we don't look like Nickelback.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:No, this is not.
Speaker C:This is not, you know, bro, butt rock.
Speaker C:You know, it's.
Speaker A:No, not at all.
Speaker C:Just 90s fun.
Speaker C:This is Canada poking.
Speaker C:Probably poking fun at American rock music, to be honest with you, but it's hilarious.
Speaker C:And, you know, certainly the video featuring members of Kids in the hall does not hurt it.
Speaker C:It just makes it not makes it funnier.
Speaker C:So that's how I took it.
Speaker C:Like, I was entertained by this.
Speaker C:It's like, just because this is just fun and it's funny and, you know, I like it so much more now because of the video.
Speaker A:Corey.
Speaker B:Yes, sir?
Speaker A:Your two cents.
Speaker B:Oh, my thoughts.
Speaker B:Oh, Odds were a great band.
Speaker B:This is from the album Bedbugs.
Speaker B:It Falls Apart was another good song off this one.
Speaker B:I always remember the video, though, as being really funny.
Speaker B:I was a big Kids in the hall fan.
Speaker B:Still am.
Speaker B:Another new season they put out on Amazon I thought was phenomenal.
Speaker B:And Craig.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:And Craig Northy from the Odds actually wrote the theme song to the Saskatchewan based sitcom Corner Gas, which was pretty big in Canada.
Speaker A:I didn't realize that.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker A:Oh, I love Corner Gas.
Speaker B:He wrote the theme song and the song they play at the end of the show, too.
Speaker A:I. I shouldn't have made that connection.
Speaker A:I just didn't realize it was them.
Speaker B:Yeah, we don't.
Speaker D:We don't have Nickelback or Bieber on the list, I hope.
Speaker B:No, that'll be for part two.
Speaker A:Part two.
Speaker D:Well, Nickelback is not.
Speaker D:I don't know why everyone shits on Nickelback.
Speaker B:I don't mind Nickelback.
Speaker D:Yeah, it's a. Yeah, it's a good.
Speaker C:I've.
Speaker C:I figured it out.
Speaker D:It's mostly the US for some reason.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:It's the U. S. Well, they're in parts of, like, Europe and South America, but that's because they just don't dig that type of music over there.
Speaker C:But I figured it out.
Speaker C:It's not so much the band itself that the, you know, people like to on.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:It's the fact that they're fans.
Speaker C:They're the fans that.
Speaker C:That the band attracts.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Tend to be some of the worst fucking people in the world.
Speaker C:It's, like, worse than Boston Bruins fans.
Speaker C:Sorry to Boston, but your fans are terrible and very toxic.
Speaker A:Yeah, very toxic.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:Very, very bad.
Speaker A:And they attack everyone else.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Well, it's because for whatever reason, Nickelback and bands of the like seem to just.
Speaker C:They attract a particular breed of folks.
Speaker C:And me being a Southern US Residents, I can tell you exactly what kind of people tend to flock towards Nickelback.
Speaker C:And it's just not good.
Speaker C:It's not good.
Speaker C:It's a particular breed.
Speaker C:And I think when you add that on top of the fact that a lot of Nickelback songs are, you know, at least in my opinion, mediocre at best, but they're still very popular and they still, you know, are playing the music they want to play.
Speaker C:So I got to give them that.
Speaker C:And they're successful.
Speaker A:A lot of.
Speaker C:I think a lot of people shit on them, too, because they're so successful.
Speaker C:And, you know, people, you got your hardcore metal elitists who are like, fuck that band.
Speaker C:But I think a lot of it has to do with the fans that they attract.
Speaker C:Don't give them a great representation.
Speaker C:So you combine all those things, and of course, the world is just going to look at them as a joke.
Speaker C:But frankly, the joke is on all of us because, say what you will about them, they have maintained a consistency in terms of successfulness for how many years now?
Speaker C:Like, a lot.
Speaker C:So what can we do?
Speaker A:The other thing, too, is they pushed hard.
Speaker A:The fame that they got and the popularity they got was from being persistent as hell, calling radio stations, demanding that they play their songs, touring relentlessly.
Speaker A:But I. I have an Additional theory to add on to Mark's, because I think Mark's theory is probably accurate, but I think there's.
Speaker A:There's another aspect too, which is it spawned a million sound alike bands.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker A:And those bands are actually not necessarily better.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker C:No, it's just.
Speaker C:They gave way to the.
Speaker C:Yeah, they.
Speaker C:They gave way to the.
Speaker C:The, as it's known as the Butt Rock or the Bro Rock sort of era.
Speaker C:And you know, to be fair to Nickelback, they didn't ask for that.
Speaker C:They didn't.
Speaker C:They didn't plan on that.
Speaker C:Just.
Speaker C:It just happened because these bands started seeing Nickelback become so successful with what they were doing, and it's like, well, they're not doing anything particularly hard, but they're playing, you know, they're playing rock music and they're being very successful.
Speaker C:If we emulate them, that we will be successful.
Speaker C:And then you get your theory of a dead man's.
Speaker C:You know, you get your, Your.
Speaker C:Your skillets, you get your, you know, name a dozen more other bands that sound just like them.
Speaker C:And then next thing you know, you've got this movement, as it were, of Bro Rock and that everyone's eating up.
Speaker C:But then, you know, there's this percentage of the audience that's going, what the hell is this?
Speaker C:This is.
Speaker A:It also gets watered down too, right?
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's just like the hair metal scene.
Speaker A:The same thing, right?
Speaker C:Like, yes, it's exactly.
Speaker C:This is not new.
Speaker A:And then it just.
Speaker C:This happens in music every.
Speaker C:So every few years, this happens.
Speaker C:This happened in grunge.
Speaker C:You know, post grunge, this happens.
Speaker C:You know, that's.
Speaker C:That's really where you want to put Nickelback is like, oh, they're in the post grunge era because that's what they sound like.
Speaker C:You know, they sound like grunge esque, but more modern.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker C:So that you give them the post grind sort of.
Speaker C:Designation now.
Speaker A:So Corey, Corey and Todd, you both like Nickelback.
Speaker A:You think they're okay, right?
Speaker D:Yeah, I think they're all right.
Speaker A:Yeah, I think they're.
Speaker A:I think they're like.
Speaker A:For me, it's not my kind of music.
Speaker A:I just think they're kind of average.
Speaker A:Like, for me, I. I don't think they're bad.
Speaker A:I just think they're.
Speaker A:It's not my.
Speaker A:It's not my cup of tea.
Speaker A:I, I don't.
Speaker A:I don't detest them.
Speaker A:They.
Speaker A:They were recently on a Talk Is Jericho episode talking about why people hate them so much.
Speaker B:Yeah, you know, I, I heard that one too.
Speaker B:And they talked about, you know, some of their.
Speaker B:You know, the guys from Pantera.
Speaker B:You know, they love Nickelback, Vinnie Paul and dimebag Darrell.
Speaker B:They were huge fans of that band.
Speaker A:But people don't like it when people work hard and get famous.
Speaker A:People, like, just want to slam that.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:I. I don't hate them.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:It's not my thing.
Speaker B:But I think average was a really good word.
Speaker B:Average was the great way to put it.
Speaker B:I saw them live, but the opening for them were Danko Jones, who is really interesting, and then the band live and live Blue Nickelback off the stage.
Speaker A:Oh, God.
Speaker A:Live is amazing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Speaking of Danko, there's It.
Speaker A:There's the segue.
Speaker A:That's the segue we wanted to hear.
Speaker B:So we.
Speaker A:We actually covered this song sort of briefly when we had Shane Wellen on the show, and we talked about the Headstones and Tweeter and the Monkey man, but we played the original version of.
Speaker A:Or no, we.
Speaker A:I think we played the original with.
Speaker A:We played this version.
Speaker A:So we're going to play the song again.
Speaker A:So this is Tweeter and the Monkey man by the Headstones.
Speaker A:This was the song we're supposed to play, right?
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:Okay, here we go.
Speaker C:Tweeter and the Monkey man were harder.
Speaker E:For cash they stayed up on ad.
Speaker C:Selling cocaine and hash to an undercover.
Speaker E:Cop who had a sister named Jan her reasons unexplained she he loved the monk man it wasn't for a sky cross he went to be a man Found out the hard way Nobody gives a damn, you know that they found freedom just across the Jersey line Hopped into a stolen cops of Highway 99 when the walls came down.
Speaker B:All the.
Speaker E:Way to hell Never saw the window standing Never solemn when they fell.
Speaker C:Ever put this video together?
Speaker C:Used clips from the movie Savages, which is an awful film, but.
Speaker C:But the song's pretty good.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:Going in 60 seconds.
Speaker B:Well, and it's a cover of a Traveling Wilbury song.
Speaker B:Mark, I don't know if you knew that this is a Bob Dylan written for the.
Speaker B:For the Wilburies.
Speaker B:The only song Roy Orbison, I think, didn't perform on that album.
Speaker B:But I always thought the Headstones version blew the Wilburies out of the water.
Speaker B:And I love that track.
Speaker B:But Headstones, I thought, really kicked it up a notch and actually did this on a podcast with Ken Knapsack.
Speaker B:Mark, who's a fellow, you know, and he loves Tweeter in the Monkey Man.
Speaker B:We always thought, this song needs to be made a movie of, you know, who'd you cast as Tweeter, who would you cast as the monkey man?
Speaker B:I always thought Tweeter would be a really good Steve Buscemi or.
Speaker B:Sorry, monkey type.
Speaker B:Maybe Vin Diesel.
Speaker B:Get him in there and tell the story of Tweeter and the monkey man.
Speaker C:Yeah, I would have to really dive into it, dive into the song itself to really give you a better.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, listen to the lyrics, I guess.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:It tells you quite a story.
Speaker A:Yeah, it is.
Speaker A:It is a great song.
Speaker A:Todd, your intro to this one,.
Speaker D:I think I had.
Speaker D:Back in the day, we had beer.
Speaker D:When you bought beer, they would give you a free, you know, a toque or a hat or they had a cd.
Speaker D:It was a single and I thought it was the head.
Speaker A:It was the Headstones.
Speaker A:It wasn't this song.
Speaker A:I'm trying to remember which one it was now.
Speaker B:There was a few different bands.
Speaker B:I remember Junk House had one.
Speaker B:Praying for the Rain came on a CD single with Molson Canadian.
Speaker C:Wait a minute, wait a minute.
Speaker C:You would buy.
Speaker C:You would buy some beer and they give you a cd?
Speaker D:Yep.
Speaker B:Cd.
Speaker B:Yeah, you bet.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:Duke bottle opener.
Speaker B:T shirt.
Speaker A:Great.
Speaker B:Canadian miniature Stanley Cup.
Speaker C:Yeah, it just.
Speaker C:Would this just happen anywhere?
Speaker A:Well, if you're buying that brand, yeah.
Speaker E:Wow.
Speaker B:There's a big competition amongst beer brands.
Speaker B:We didn't.
Speaker C:We didn't do that here.
Speaker C:Not to my knowledge.
Speaker D:They don't do that anymore.
Speaker D:Remember Shreddies?
Speaker D:You used to be able to get a free toy in the Shreddies all the time, but.
Speaker D:And now, I don't know.
Speaker D:I don't think they do that anymore.
Speaker D:Same with beer.
Speaker D:I don't think they.
Speaker D:They give out free swag anymore.
Speaker D:I think that with all the cutbacks, it's.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Not unless you're at a bar and a brewery comes in and, like, says, like, here, try our new brew.
Speaker C:We're like, we're.
Speaker C:You know, it's a special promotion here at this bar.
Speaker C:Here's some free swag while you're at it.
Speaker B:Yeah, unfortunately for Mark, he's American, so he doesn't even get beer.
Speaker B:He has 2% horse piss that they pass off his beer like Pabst and Schlitz and all that kind of crap.
Speaker D:Absolutely.
Speaker C:Number.
Speaker C:Well, number one, Paps, is for hipster dumbasses that have no taste buds.
Speaker C:Two, we don't have Schlitz here.
Speaker C:At least not in the south, we don't.
Speaker B:Well, they do in Montana, because when I used to cross the border to get some cheap beer, you get like a 12 pack of Schlitz for like five bucks.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:And look, I drink.
Speaker C:I drink craft beer, thank you very much.
Speaker C:So, like now.
Speaker C:Now who's the hipster?
Speaker B:Craft beer, Mark and Fine Wine Corey on the Fast Freddy and Geek Boy show.
Speaker A:Yes, I like it.
Speaker D:I like it.
Speaker A:The Todd's band plays Smile and Wave, I believe.
Speaker A:Right, Todd?
Speaker D:Yep.
Speaker A:From the Headstone.
Speaker B:That's a good one.
Speaker B:Did you know the Headstones just did a cover of the Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald?
Speaker A:Oh, no.
Speaker D:Oh, really?
Speaker A:I hear that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:That's bold.
Speaker B:An up tempo version of the Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.
Speaker C:Oh, I might like that better than you expected, Gordon Lightfoot, but that.
Speaker C:Yeah, I might like that one better because that song, it's good, but it drags a little bit.
Speaker C:Drag so hard.
Speaker A:17 Minutes, I think the song is.
Speaker C:Or something My brother love.
Speaker C:My brother loves to jam that song regularly.
Speaker C:I have no idea why, but he does.
Speaker C:And I just go, bro, can we not?
Speaker C:Can we not?
Speaker C:Because it's just.
Speaker C:I don't have the time to just appreciate this right now.
Speaker D:When you watch the video.
Speaker D:When you watch the video for the.
Speaker D:For that from Gold, Gordon Lightfoot, it's.
Speaker D:It.
Speaker D:You almost have to put a jacket on because you feel like you're freezing.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's true.
Speaker D:Because the boat's, you know, it's going through the water and it's, you know, pretty rough.
Speaker D:Like, looks pretty cool.
Speaker C:I'm gonna listen to.
Speaker C:If I'm gonna listen to like a 20 minute, you know, slow burn, epic song like that, I'm gonna listen to Alice's Restaurant Massacre by Arlo Guthrie, you know, at least that's funny, you know,.
Speaker B:So we said, like, Gordon Lightfoot's was 17 minutes.
Speaker B:The Headstones version is 4 minutes and 46 seconds.
Speaker B:So that's how much they crank it up.
Speaker C:That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker D:There you go.
Speaker D:There you go.
Speaker D:Vignette.
Speaker A:So, Todd, was that true?
Speaker A:Smile and wave.
Speaker A:Your band does smile and wave, right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, I think I remember from last.
Speaker A:The last show.
Speaker D:I like that too.
Speaker D:That's a pretty cool.
Speaker D:Cool.
Speaker D:Some cool bass lines.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:I know, I know Mark's a video game, not like Todd and I are.
Speaker A:Is that correct?
Speaker C:I don't know if that would be accurate, but go on.
Speaker E:What?
Speaker C:I. I like video games, but I am not an active gamer whatsoever.
Speaker C:I don't even own a console right now.
Speaker A:Oh, wow.
Speaker A:So there was a game called Left 4 Dead.
Speaker C:I remember Left 4 Dead, okay?
Speaker A:In the second Left 4 Dead, there was a guy in a white suit that Was the singer for the Headstones.
Speaker C:Oh, that's cool.
Speaker A:Because he's also an actor and he's the character I always play when I play Left four Dead.
Speaker C:I know that Mike Patton did voices or a voice on the game the Darkness.
Speaker C:Yeah, there's a little.
Speaker C:Bringing it back to Mike Patton for you with that.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker A:All right, so we have a couple more songs left here.
Speaker A:I think I want to save this one.
Speaker A:I'm not going to tell the listeners.
Speaker A:I think we're going to save this one for last.
Speaker A:Let's jump to some Canadian.
Speaker A:I wanted.
Speaker A:So you wanted your Northern Pikes.
Speaker A:I wanted my.
Speaker A:This band that we're going to play here, huge in the city.
Speaker A:They got signed to a label.
Speaker A:The label screwed them over.
Speaker E:They.
Speaker A:I. I have.
Speaker A:I have some inside information on this band because just.
Speaker A:I don't know through connections I have.
Speaker A:And they basically they're a band that has three vocalists.
Speaker A:They play blues rock, but fast blues rock.
Speaker A:They're really great.
Speaker A:They're amazing.
Speaker A:They were like the.
Speaker A:They were once listed as the best unsigned Canadian band.
Speaker A:They toured Canada.
Speaker A:They toured the U.S. they played everywhere.
Speaker A:Then they got signed to a record label and the record label came in and said Damon was the singer for this band.
Speaker A:You'll maybe get the hints here.
Speaker A:They said, damon, you need to lose a couple of pounds if you're the front man for this band.
Speaker A:You got to look nice.
Speaker A:You need to be shaven.
Speaker A:You need to shave more often.
Speaker A:You can't have five o' clock shadow.
Speaker A:You need to wear better clothes.
Speaker A:This isn't a backyard party.
Speaker A:We need one singer for this band.
Speaker A:This is too confusing with three singers.
Speaker A:So, Damon, you're gonna.
Speaker A:As the best vocalist of the band.
Speaker A:You're going to be singing all the vocals.
Speaker A:You guys can't do these sorts of songs anymore.
Speaker A:You guys have to do more of these kinds of songs.
Speaker A:And basically their.
Speaker A:Their major label debut, which is actually a pretty good album.
Speaker A:They still managed to get their.
Speaker A:Their sound in, but they were trying to neuter them.
Speaker B:So they.
Speaker A:They got the record deal.
Speaker A:They did a tour.
Speaker A:They had two songs that are played at every freaking hockey game off that album.
Speaker A:But they.
Speaker A:They took a loss and get out of their deal and went indie and released an amazing indie album after that.
Speaker A:But this is.
Speaker A:This band's great.
Speaker A:I've seen them I don't know how many times.
Speaker A:This song is the hockey song that's played at every jets game.
Speaker C:Oh, boy.
Speaker A:Probably recognizes it.
Speaker A:I do have.
Speaker A:Now, this is interesting.
Speaker A:This album Is not available on streaming services.
Speaker C:Yeah, I tried.
Speaker C:So I did.
Speaker B:On YouTube.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So anyway, I do have the video for this.
Speaker A:And I don't know, like, I watch this video with a bit of skepticism, because I can tell, because I. I've seen these guys live, and I'm like, wow, Damon, you don't look anything.
Speaker A:Like, this is not you.
Speaker A:Like, this doesn't look like you.
Speaker D:They tried to make another band out of the bandwear.
Speaker D:Doesn't.
Speaker A:Yeah, sorry.
Speaker E:They.
Speaker A:Yeah, they just.
Speaker A:They neutered, like.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:They neutered the look.
Speaker A:The sound was just a bunch of, you know, good dudes hanging out, playing music.
Speaker A:And the song.
Speaker A:The music is still good, but you can tell, like.
Speaker A:And then they do upwards shots of Damon to make him look slimmer.
Speaker A:Like, it's just pisses me off.
Speaker C:Like, I know.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker C:That's so condescending.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So anyway, so this band is called the.
Speaker A:They were called the Blue Meanies, and then there was a band in Chicago that was called the Blue Meanies.
Speaker A:So they had to rename themselves, even though they came up with the name first.
Speaker A:So they called themselves the New Meanies on their major label release.
Speaker A:And this was the first single that was released.
Speaker A:And here we go.
Speaker E:Sa.
Speaker E:Can I give them water?
Speaker E:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker E:Every day and every hour I'm gonna walk till they flower.
Speaker B:I love the one shot of the bass player looked like a history professor.
Speaker B:He's wearing, like, a tweed jacket.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So that was three Seeds.
Speaker A:Mark your two cents.
Speaker C:Again.
Speaker C:This is one that sounds very much of the time of.
Speaker C:Of whence it came.
Speaker C:That's not a bad thing.
Speaker C:That's not a knock.
Speaker C:It's just, like, the moment I heard it, I went, I'll bet this is a 90s tune.
Speaker C:And if I'm not mistaken, I was like, Yep, that's a 90s tune.
Speaker C:There's.
Speaker C:There's just something.
Speaker C:Sometimes you can just recognize 90s tone.
Speaker C:And, you know, sonically, it's.
Speaker C:It takes you back to that era.
Speaker C:But I had never.
Speaker C:I was not familiar with this song at all until this list.
Speaker C:So it, again, it speaks to my sort of 90s alternative sort of sensibilities of, you know, the music I grew up with.
Speaker C:So wasn't mad at it whatsoever.
Speaker A:This is one of the best live bands you'll ever see.
Speaker A:So much energy, like.
Speaker A:Yeah, Corey.
Speaker B:Well, I hadn't heard a lot from this band either.
Speaker B:All I really knew about them, aside from listening to or watching Winnipeg jets games was their very Spinal Tap esque way they were named.
Speaker B:Of course, Spinal Tap was the Originals.
Speaker B:Then there was another brand called the New Original or another band called the Originals.
Speaker B:So they changed their name to the New Originals and then the Originals changed their name back to the Regulars.
Speaker B:And so the New Originals thought, well, we could be the Originals again, or we could just say fuck it.
Speaker B:It's kind of the same thing here, but very 90s.
Speaker B:I kind of agree with Mark.
Speaker B:They're kind of the Northern pikes with the 90s edge.
Speaker B:Kind of, you know, good groove based music.
Speaker B:Little harder edge than maybe the Northern Pikes.
Speaker B:And yeah, very, very 90s production on that.
Speaker B:But I dug it.
Speaker B:I thought it was pretty good.
Speaker A:Their album before this is a thousand times better that independently produced.
Speaker A:And the other two vocalists are like, really good.
Speaker A:I would highly recommend.
Speaker A:That one's on.
Speaker A:That one you can stream.
Speaker A:But Todd, your intro.
Speaker D:There was another famous song that they.
Speaker D:They did.
Speaker A:And we pass.
Speaker D:Oh, geez.
Speaker D:I'm assuming it's these guys.
Speaker D:The Henna.
Speaker D:Whatever lyric that was in there, I think.
Speaker D:I can't remember,.
Speaker E:You know.
Speaker A:You know that lyric that I think,.
Speaker D:Was it Michael Bossier or whatever it was that was playing, I guess when we went to go see.
Speaker D:See the live bands at the bar.
Speaker D:And I believe it was one of their songs that they were playing.
Speaker D:And that was kind of my introduction.
Speaker D:It wasn't.
Speaker D:It wasn't an album that I would have went out and bought, but.
Speaker D:But I remember.
Speaker D:I remember hearing music.
Speaker A:Was it this one?
Speaker D:It's pretty good.
Speaker A:Is it this one?
Speaker D:How's it go?
Speaker A:Try that one.
Speaker D:No,.
Speaker A:This one?
Speaker D:No, but I did.
Speaker D:I. I have heard this song and it's really.
Speaker D:It's got a nice little groove to it.
Speaker D:Get that telly twang.
Speaker A:Yep, that's.
Speaker A:That other guitar player is really, really good.
Speaker A:Anyway, whatever.
Speaker A:So that was the New Meanings.
Speaker A:This.
Speaker A:That's my I.
Speaker A:And for me, this is the best band that ever came out of Winnipeg, period.
Speaker A:Better than the Guess who.
Speaker A:Better than anyone.
Speaker D:Oh, they're actually from Winnipeg.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:Wow.
Speaker C:Better than the Guess who.
Speaker C:That is a hot take.
Speaker A:Oh, but I love these guys.
Speaker A:I've seen them dozens of times.
Speaker A:Every show is great.
Speaker A:They're just.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:This was the first band I saw in Winnipeg when we moved to Winnipeg.
Speaker A:I went downtown, or what I thought was downtown, took a walk, heard music coming out of this venue, walked over to the venue, walked in the door, bought a ticket, walked in and these guys were playing this is.
Speaker A:This was like a week or two weeks into move or no.
Speaker A:Yeah, something like that.
Speaker A:After I'd moved back to Winnipeg and I was of legal age.
Speaker A:Yeah, it was like, wow, these guys are amazing.
Speaker A:But let's move on to the last song.
Speaker A:This is probably the.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:Probably the best selling Canadian band, maybe.
Speaker B:Best selling Canadian band, fourth best Canadian artist.
Speaker B:So I think you'd put Brian Adams, probably Celine Dion, Shania Twain to probably be the top three.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:But yeah, I don't think anyone holds a candle to these guys, in my opinion.
Speaker A:Like, they're just that good.
Speaker A:And this is my favorite song of theirs.
Speaker A:Corey, this was your favorite song of theirs?
Speaker B:Yes, sir.
Speaker A:Todd, are you familiar with this song?
Speaker D:As soon as you play it, I'll recognize it.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:I'm sure the names don't mean a.
Speaker A:Whole lot, but you guys do.
Speaker A:Your band does do a song off of this particular album though, because I got really excited when you played that song.
Speaker D:I think we do like three or four of their songs.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, you do.
Speaker A:But off this particular album that this is from.
Speaker A:This is the first CD I ever owned.
Speaker A:Was.
Speaker A:And this was the opening track on it.
Speaker A:So this is the tragically hip with grace 2.
Speaker E:Sam.
Speaker E:Said I'm Fabulously Rich.
Speaker E:Come on, just let's go.
Speaker E:She kind of bit her lip.
Speaker E:Jeez.
Speaker E:I don't know.
Speaker E:But I can guarantee.
Speaker E:I can guarantee there be no knock on the door I'm total broken that's what I'm here for.
Speaker E:I come from downtown.
Speaker E:Ready for you.
Speaker A:He was creepy as hell.
Speaker B:I don't remember the video for this one.
Speaker A:Yeah, I. I'd never seen it either.
Speaker D:Same.
Speaker D:But yeah, I definitely recognize the song.
Speaker D:Very good song.
Speaker D:Very good song.
Speaker A:Let's ask the.
Speaker A:Sorry.
Speaker A:Go ahead, Doug.
Speaker D:No, I was gonna say the Road Apples album was the one that.
Speaker D:There's quite a few songs on there.
Speaker D:I think we used to play when we were playing with.
Speaker D:With dad and In Vain.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:So, Corey, why is this.
Speaker A:You're one of your tops for these guys.
Speaker B:To me, it encompasses everything that I love about the Tragically Hip.
Speaker B:Like when you got Gord Downey known for his unique vocal stylings, but his lyrics.
Speaker B:And I really like the.
Speaker B:The story this song tells and.
Speaker B:And even in the chorus, you know, armed with will and determination and grace too.
Speaker B:Just fantastic, fantastic lyrics.
Speaker B:I love the groove of this thing.
Speaker B:I love it live in concert.
Speaker B:He would constantly.
Speaker B:Or sometimes he would change the opening lyric from he said I'm fabulously rich to he said I'M Tragically Hip.
Speaker B:And I always thought that was really cool.
Speaker B:That should have been the original lyric in the song.
Speaker B:That would have been phenomenal.
Speaker B:But this era of, you know, from Road Apples on up to this album, which was Day For Night, some amazing songs.
Speaker B:The Hip really tell the story of Canada.
Speaker B:And a lot of their songwriting, they tell.
Speaker B:They sing songs about eastern Canada, about Western Canada.
Speaker B:They do a great song called Week Kings that's, you know, very prairie based.
Speaker B:They talk about the Paris on the Perrys, which is Saskatoon, Saskatchewan.
Speaker B:They're very Bruce Springsteen esque, I guess, in that regard, and that they're kind of telling stories of our nation through their songwriting.
Speaker B:And that's why we've kind of embraced them as being kind of Canada's band.
Speaker A:Yeah, Mark.
Speaker B:And I'm curious to see what Mark thinks of the tragic.
Speaker D:Me too.
Speaker C:This is a song I've definitely heard before.
Speaker C:Don't ask me where because I couldn't tell you.
Speaker C:But I've.
Speaker C:I've heard it.
Speaker C:Guarantee I've heard it.
Speaker E:And.
Speaker C:Which also probably means that at some point down the road, I've heard more from the Tragically Hip just without ever knowing that it was them.
Speaker C:But I really, really dug this song.
Speaker C:The song's very.
Speaker C:It has that sort of moody sort of angst to it that was so prevalent in alternative rock in the 90s, which, again, big fan of it, speaks to my sensibilities.
Speaker C:And the video that goes with it sort of encompasses that as well.
Speaker C:But I dig this.
Speaker C:And I.
Speaker C:And I really dug.
Speaker C:I was looking into the lyrics after I heard it.
Speaker C:I was like.
Speaker C:Because I was trying to.
Speaker C:I was trying to pinpoint exactly where I might have heard this before, and I still couldn't find it.
Speaker C:Maybe I heard it.
Speaker C:Maybe it was featured on a.
Speaker C:In a movie or a show.
Speaker B:You know what?
Speaker B:They actually.
Speaker B:They did this on Saturday Night Live.
Speaker B:Dan Aykroyd agreed to host Saturday Night live in the 90s, but he said, I'll only do it if I could bring the tragically hip hop.
Speaker B:Oh, maybe.
Speaker C:Maybe that's it.
Speaker C:Maybe that's it because.
Speaker C:Because I was.
Speaker C:I watched so much SNL over the years, especially during the.
Speaker C:The 90s years.
Speaker C:And actually I was introduced to a lot of musical acts through Saturday Night Live that I otherwise might not have heard.
Speaker C:Funny enough, I was introduced to Morrissey from.
Speaker C:By Saturday Night Live.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And then that.
Speaker C:Yeah, I was.
Speaker C:And that was when he was solo.
Speaker C:And, you know, we.
Speaker C:That's all we need to say about Morrissey.
Speaker C:But it led me to to go back and go like.
Speaker C:I was like, oh, my God, that was.
Speaker C:He was in the Smiths.
Speaker C:Oh, I, I knew the Smiths and.
Speaker C:But it was, you know, that's just one example.
Speaker C:And then I guarantee you.
Speaker C:Tragically Hip, I think, I think SNL was.
Speaker C:I think you nailed it, Corey.
Speaker C:That's.
Speaker C:That's where I heard him.
Speaker A:Didn't they do Nautical Disasters, the second song, Corey?
Speaker B:I think they did, yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But that was supposed to be their big American breakthrough.
Speaker B:Like, it was such a big thing.
Speaker B:The Chip are going to be on snl.
Speaker B:Dan Aykroyd's hosting, and it was supposed to be their big breakthrough in America, and it just didn't happen.
Speaker A:No, but I also, they really wanted, I think SNL really wanted them to play older songs.
Speaker A:They wanted to like, yeah, maybe that was Sinking or one of the other ones.
Speaker A:And they're like, maybe that's.
Speaker A:We have a new album coming out.
Speaker A:We're playing the new songs.
Speaker C:And they could have been a Law Michaels thing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But they wanted to do.
Speaker B:I love the intro from Dan Akroy too.
Speaker B:He just.
Speaker B:Let me introduce to you my friends from Ontario.
Speaker B:This is the Tragically Hip.
Speaker C:Yeah, but I, Yeah, no, I, I really dug this track and I, I really want to go back and sort of dive more into their catalog to see.
Speaker C:See one if I recognize anything or just to.
Speaker C:Just to jam it, just to hear what the rest of their stuff sounds like.
Speaker C:Because I really, really dug this one.
Speaker A:I feel this album Day for Night that it's off of is.
Speaker A:Is dark.
Speaker A:It might be your good intro.
Speaker A:Just maybe start there.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Locked in the Trunk of a Car was on this one.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So that's a good one.
Speaker B:Courage was a song I almost nominated to be on this playlist.
Speaker A:Yeah, I thought of that one too.
Speaker A:This is a very Canadian feeling song.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:They're.
Speaker A:They're, they're really good.
Speaker D:They're.
Speaker B:Sorry, those are from Fully Completely.
Speaker B:That was the album before.
Speaker A:Fully Completely.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which is, which is also really good.
Speaker A:Those are my two.
Speaker A:My two faves day for namely completely.
Speaker A:But I, I, I made, I remember I made a comment.
Speaker A:I said, I said they're kind of like Dave Matthews, but much better because I always said Dave Matthews was a poor man's tragically hip.
Speaker A:And boy, oh boy, that didn't die very well.
Speaker B:No, I agree, though.
Speaker B:If Dave Matthews were good, they'd be the tragically him.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oof.
Speaker D:Wow.
Speaker C:Am I the only.
Speaker C:Am I the only Dave Matthews Band fan in there?
Speaker A:Okay, well, no, it's just like.
Speaker A:No, it's okay.
Speaker D:It was good.
Speaker A:I always felt like I'm just gonna go listen to the hip.
Speaker A:Like, that's for me, that's what it was.
Speaker A:So anyway, you know, he's.
Speaker C:Yeah, DMB is not for everybody.
Speaker C:I get it.
Speaker A:No, it's fine.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:So that's some Canadian music.
Speaker A:So I think we're going to call it here.
Speaker A:I actually do have to be somewhere.
Speaker A:I think some people are in the background are waiting for me to stop this and so we can do our thing.
Speaker A:Corey, I'll.
Speaker A:Maybe I'll talk to you offline for some tips and tricks for.
Speaker B:Sounds good.
Speaker A:But anyway, thanks for coming on.
Speaker A:It was overdue and I'm glad we had a fun way to do it.
Speaker A:I do want to do an episode later that's a bit more.
Speaker A:Maybe less mainstream and a bit more metal and punk and that sort of thing to some, but some Canadian.
Speaker A:Good stuff.
Speaker A:Mark, if you want to come back for that, that'd be kind of fun.
Speaker C:I'm into it.
Speaker C:You know, you're speaking to my musical tastes, so, yeah, I'm down for it.
Speaker C:This was a fun.
Speaker C:This was fun to dive into.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And I'm very happy I was introduced to a new variety of Canadian music.
Speaker C:So thank you, boys, for having me.
Speaker A:Awesome.
Speaker A:Plug yourselves.
Speaker A:Where can we.
Speaker A:Where can we find you both?
Speaker B:Well, they could find us on the.
Speaker B:And the podcast Will Rock.
Speaker B:We're breaking down the Van Halen catalog one track at a time by the Spin of an Evil Wheel that's given us two consecutive Balance tracks.
Speaker B:So that.
Speaker B:That's been pretty good.
Speaker B:We've had a.
Speaker B:Just come off All Star August where you boys appeared on.
Speaker B:We just had Eric Senich and on the show again.
Speaker B:And Mark's special lady was on the last one, too.
Speaker B:So you can check that out wherever you get your podcast from.
Speaker B:I'm Also on Twitter, podcast walk.com or sorry.
Speaker B:Podcast Will Rock, we have a website, www.podcast willrock.com and get some merch, listen to past episodes.
Speaker B:And if you want to yell at me for whatever reason, I'm @CD Morset.
Speaker C:On Twitter and you can find me at Mark the Bat on Twitter and Instagram.
Speaker C:And yeah, yell at me all you want about whatever you want.
Speaker C:Check it out.
Speaker C:Most of the time I just rant about the nerdy things happening in the webisphere.
Speaker C:So, yeah, drop a line, list some more obscure bands of the metal and rock genre either in Canada or wherever that I might not know about.
Speaker C:I'M always keen to learn more music.
Speaker A:Amen.
Speaker A:And you can find us at shangpodcast on all social media.
Speaker A:And what's the website?
Speaker D:Todd Sean mcginnity.ca that's S E A n M C G I n I T Y.
Speaker A:Ribbed for your pleasure.
Speaker A:Oh, God, that's hilarious.
Speaker C:If a voice could be ribbed.
Speaker C:There it is.
Speaker D:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:All right, I'm going to stop the recording.
Speaker A:Thanks, everybody.
