Episode 605
Beard Combs, Bad Necks, and Gin Taxi
We're diving into some juicy updates this week, starting with Sean's epic air conditioning saga that had him sweating bullets and Todd's shed construction woes that are battling Mother Nature. We'll also jam out to some tunes from the band Bliss, whose tunes are as diverse as our podcast chats! It's a mix of laughter, stories, and a sprinkle of nostalgia as we reminisce about our experiences with local music and the good times that come with it. So kick back, grab your favorite drink, and join us for a fun ride full of banter, updates, and some sweet sound bites from Bliss. You'll be glad you did!
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Takeaways:
- Sean provided a hilarious update on his air conditioning saga, making us all laugh at the absurdity of a heatwave without AC.
- Todd shared his ongoing shed project, which has been hilariously hampered by unpredictable weather—classic DIY woes!
- We dived deep into the music of Bliss, exploring how their diverse musical styles kept things fresh and exciting for listeners.
- The discussion about Bliss led to a nostalgic trip down memory lane, showcasing the band's evolution and how it resonated with their fans.
- Sean's heartfelt tribute to his late friend Ray, revealing how his encouragement during tough times helped Sean find his way back to joy and music.
- We wrapped up the episode with a playful banter about the quirks of being a DIY musician, leaving listeners with laughter and inspiration.
Companies mentioned in this episode:
- Turnstone
- Bliss
- Gin Taxi
- Fastball
- New Meanies
- Paul Rogers
- Studio 21
- Studio 11
- DJ Rain
- DJ Narcotic
- DJ Phosphor
Transcript
Hit the music.
Speaker B:Drop the needle.
Speaker B:You can talk through this too.
Speaker B:It's me again with a little attitude.
Speaker B:For all you out here in white.
Speaker A:Bread land, you may crunch my ice.
Speaker B:Crunch it, crunch it.
Speaker A:This is what you call cosmic.
Speaker B:The Buddhists call it, let me see.
Speaker B:Reincarnation.
Speaker C:America is complete.
Speaker B:Hey, wait a minute.
Speaker B:Since when is Pismo beach insider cave?
Speaker B:I wonder.
Speaker B:You know, I just think we should have trained lift at Albuquerque and there may be a right time at La Jola.
Speaker C:Come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass.
Speaker A:Whoa.
Speaker B:I felt like a DJ Mixmaster.
Speaker B:Adding in the extra sound bites.
Speaker B:There I was doing it live, picking.
Speaker A:My spots live, mixing live.
Speaker B:So let's do this like the old days.
Speaker B:Welcome to the Sean geek and fast fret pod.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker B:So it was a non recording week, but I still recorded because I made a commitment.
Speaker B:I didn't want you to miss out on your birthday.
Speaker B:I was just gonna reschedule.
Speaker B:I'm like, no, you know, I'll just.
Speaker B:It's an author.
Speaker B:You haven't read the book.
Speaker B:Let's do it that way.
Speaker B:But he did.
Speaker B:David Yoan Fuller did wish you a happy birthday on the episode.
Speaker A:Sweet.
Speaker A:Thank you very much.
Speaker B:It was a very interesting guest.
Speaker B:Now, I don't know if our fans are like the literary corner that we do every once in a while, but I don't care.
Speaker B:You know what?
Speaker B:I want to support if someone's writing their first book and putting their book out, and Turnstone reaches out to me and wants me to showcase the author.
Speaker B:You know what?
Speaker B:We're expanding.
Speaker B:It's important to expand our horizons and support local talent.
Speaker B:Support first time authors, support people that are out there doing something creative, doing their thing.
Speaker B:So, you know what?
Speaker B:If some of you didn't like that episode, that's fine.
Speaker B:You can tune out, tune into the next one.
Speaker B:That's fine.
Speaker B:But I'm not gonna not do these episodes.
Speaker B:I think it's critical the minute Josh puts out his solo album.
Speaker B:Josh, you know one of the.
Speaker B:And the podcast will rock.
Speaker B:Guys, I'm gonna promote that.
Speaker B:It's music and I'll promote it.
Speaker B:And yeah, that seems like our target audience, but if someone is going to put out a new asmr.
Speaker B:Todd, you want to demonstrate the asmr.
Speaker B:Now, you can't quite hear that, but Todd is combing his beard with a beard comb.
Speaker B:It's very soothing.
Speaker B:So if Todd's promoting his new asmr, we're gonna.
Speaker B:We're gonna talk about it on the show.
Speaker A:We're gonna.
Speaker B:We're gonna talk about people who make stuff and promote the.
Speaker B:Promote the fuck out of it.
Speaker B:Like, like Todd's.
Speaker B:Like dad said.
Speaker B:Todd, what did dad say?
Speaker B:If you got something nice to say about somebody, what are you waiting.
Speaker A:What are you waiting for?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And for those of you who are watching the video version of this podcast, just take a look at Sean's face.
Speaker A:And all this time you've.
Speaker A:You've been looking at him going, there's just something different about him.
Speaker A:And I can't really make it out.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, you're doing so well with your beard.
Speaker A:What, what, what happened?
Speaker B:Well, look at you, Segway King.
Speaker B:Look at that.
Speaker C:Look at that.
Speaker B:It's well done.
Speaker B:Well done.
Speaker B:So the problem was my air conditioning crapped out and there was a fiasco.
Speaker B:And I'm wondering how much I'm going to share today.
Speaker B:I know Mighty K has.
Speaker B:You know what?
Speaker B:Maybe we can play the Mighty Clay Mighty K clip.
Speaker B:But I might need you to speak while I find it.
Speaker B:Speak while I find it.
Speaker A:Well, just.
Speaker A:Just an update on my, on my shed while he's looking for this.
Speaker A:Yes, the.
Speaker A:The update is there is no update only because the weather is just not cooperating.
Speaker A:It's been raining and then it's been super hot and raining and it's been super hot.
Speaker A:So super hot.
Speaker A:I can't do.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:In the springtime, when it came to doing the base, it was cool out.
Speaker A:I was able to do it.
Speaker A:I was still out of breath.
Speaker A:It just took everything out of me just, just to spread out this, this gravel and stuff and stamp it down.
Speaker A:Now that it's this hot and humid, it's just mowing the lawn between the rains command holidays next week.
Speaker A:So it's going to be like, well, depending on the weather, I might have to get up at 8:00 in the morning, maybe do.
Speaker A:Do a little bit of work.
Speaker A:And then by 10 or 12, depending on.
Speaker A:On how hot it is, I'm gonna be kind of calling it quits, so.
Speaker B:Well, you know, we were taking the dog at first thing in the morning and he was already too hot.
Speaker B:Just a conversion for the Americans listening.
Speaker B:That's you, Mighty K. That's you, Tony.
Speaker B:That's you, Josh.
Speaker B:That's you, Tim Armbruster.
Speaker B:Tom Armbruster.
Speaker B:So it was so the actual temperature before humidex kicked in, because Humidex gives you a new temperature based on how humid it fucking is.
Speaker B:So our temperature before humidex was 93.2 degrees.
Speaker B:And I believe with the Humidex, it was listed as 113°F.
Speaker A:So this.
Speaker A:This would be the Fahrenheit American conversion.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:What's the we.
Speaker B:We talked about with Bob and Doug?
Speaker B:You double it, then you.
Speaker B:You add 30 and that's what you get in metric.
Speaker A:Metric.
Speaker A:Metric beers.
Speaker A:So you get like 52 metric beers.
Speaker B:No, it is a case of 12.
Speaker B:Double it at 24.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And then you add 30.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker A:50, 48 And another 30.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:So with.
Speaker B:When the air conditioning crapped out in my house, the holding temperature in my house before humidity was 84.2 degrees.
Speaker B:And with the humidity, it was probably closer to 104 degrees in the house.
Speaker B:Because it was fucking humid in the house.
Speaker B:Yeah, fucking humid.
Speaker B:It was ridiculous.
Speaker B:And that held for five days, maybe almost six days.
Speaker B:No, sorry.
Speaker B:We had one day.
Speaker B:Oh, we had.
Speaker B:We bought two new fans, right?
Speaker B:We had two fans.
Speaker B:We bought two fans.
Speaker B:We had the dehumidifier running constantly and they couldn't keep up.
Speaker B:The kids, actually, when they were going to sleep, they had the fan so they'd have like a thin sheet over top of them in bed.
Speaker B:And we put the fan underneath the sheet so it was blowing underneath the sheet.
Speaker A:Oh, wow.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Did they get any sleep that night?
Speaker B:That was every night.
Speaker A:Just the air movement alone will keep you awake.
Speaker A:Never mind being hot and sweaty and.
Speaker B:And the poor dog.
Speaker A:The dog.
Speaker B:So the, you know.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker B:You know, Simon's a cuddler.
Speaker B:Like, he's like.
Speaker B:He's just like your boy there.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Super cuddly.
Speaker B:Super cuddly all the time.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:But that week he did not cuddle with nobody.
Speaker B:He was in the same room, but he wasn't cuddling with nobody.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'll sleep over here.
Speaker A:It's cooler.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Well, you know when you have a junkie, right, and he's shooting up smack or whatever, right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And he goes, a week without smack.
Speaker B:What's gonna happen after that week without smack when he gets smack again?
Speaker B:Gonna be all over it.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:Face right in there.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Well, gonna go crazy.
Speaker B:So Simon.
Speaker B:So the first day where it started to cool down because it took like out, like, it took six hours for the, like, it to really come down.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Because it has to suck all the humidity out first.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Simon.
Speaker B:So Simon's, like looking at.
Speaker A:Sorry, take it easy there.
Speaker A:Gets over stimulated and he wants to bite.
Speaker B:So anyway, so he's.
Speaker B:He's in the kitchen and Sylvie's in the kitchen and he's looking at her and he kind of leans his.
Speaker B:His head in.
Speaker B:Leans his head into the.
Speaker B:To her knee.
Speaker B:It's like, well, what do you want?
Speaker B:What do you want?
Speaker B:He takes a couple steps towards the living room.
Speaker B:So she takes a couple steps.
Speaker B:She follows him.
Speaker B:She's against her knee again.
Speaker B:And he's looking up at her.
Speaker B:And then he's looking at the living room, looking up at her, looking at the living room.
Speaker B:She takes a couple more steps.
Speaker B:So she.
Speaker B:She follows.
Speaker B:And we have.
Speaker B:This is a weird setup, but we have a mattress in our living room.
Speaker B:Kids like to lie down while they're watching tv.
Speaker B:So we have this, like, little mattress there.
Speaker B:So he was.
Speaker A:Over.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's right.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's right.
Speaker B:So he's there on the mattress, waiting for her to follow him.
Speaker B:So he.
Speaker B:He.
Speaker B:She follows him.
Speaker B:And then he's leaning against her knee, like, kind of, like, really pushing hard.
Speaker B:And he's kind of pawing at her leg.
Speaker A:She's like, sit down.
Speaker B:So she gets down to one knee.
Speaker B:And then he's like.
Speaker B:He's.
Speaker B:He's.
Speaker B:He stands up on his back legs, and he's got both paws hanging, like Ziggy.
Speaker B:You know Ziggy?
Speaker B:Yeah, the cartoon guy, kind of Kilroy.
Speaker B:He's leaning against her on her leg, kind of like.
Speaker B:So then she goes on both knees.
Speaker B:And then he's like.
Speaker B:Now he's, like, standing up on her stomach and kind of like pushing his head into her boobs or whatever, like.
Speaker B:So then she sits down.
Speaker B:Crisscross applesauce.
Speaker B:And he goes right in that.
Speaker B:That nook right there.
Speaker B:Right between both knees and her crotch.
Speaker A:That's what he's waiting for.
Speaker A:To cuddle.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:And he goes,.
Speaker A:That was a lot of work.
Speaker B:And he.
Speaker B:He was asleep in, like, 10 seconds.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:And just.
Speaker B:And just groaning the whole time, like, Just so.
Speaker A:Happy.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:That's what he needed.
Speaker B:That's what he needed.
Speaker B:Like, he just.
Speaker A:So, like, what was the temperature in the basement?
Speaker A:Because usually it's really cold.
Speaker B:It was about 10 degrees less.
Speaker A:So did you guys figure, well, maybe we'll sleep in the basement?
Speaker B:Well, I slept.
Speaker B:Okay, so here's the other half of the story.
Speaker B:So I went and slept in the basement a couple nights, right?
Speaker B:I also slept on the couch in the main level one night.
Speaker B:Simon wouldn't follow me in the basement.
Speaker B:The idea is I'll sleep in the basement.
Speaker B:Simon will follow me because he's the guy that needs to cool off.
Speaker B:He's got the fur coat on, right?
Speaker B:Right he won't follow me.
Speaker B:So I slept on the main level one night.
Speaker B:And, I mean, a couch isn't that comfortable.
Speaker B:Especially our couches are kind of lumpy and stuff.
Speaker B:So I basically, you know, I was.
Speaker B:I slept in the bedroom.
Speaker B:Like, for the whole week, I slept in the bedroom like, twice, I think.
Speaker A:Well.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker B:So, yeah, because I had the one night I slept in the bedroom, and it was fine.
Speaker B:I opened the window, getting a nice breeze from outside.
Speaker B:Wake up the next morning, The smoke rolled in from Alberta, so I couldn't open my windows.
Speaker B:So I couldn't even cool the fucking house off.
Speaker A:Oh, God.
Speaker A:Is it Alberta or Ontario?
Speaker B:Well, Alberta, I think it's all blowing east or southeast or whatever.
Speaker B:But Alberta had fires.
Speaker B:BC had fires.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So then it's like, okay, good.
Speaker B:It's super hot in the house, and we can't open the windows.
Speaker B:Like, we can't cool off at night when they, you know, if it cools down.
Speaker B:So anyway, so I get this fucking crook in my neck and my shoulder, specifically.
Speaker A:Mm.
Speaker B:That was so bad.
Speaker B:Like, I couldn't.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:So, you know, you move your arms back, you know, you can do, like, kind of figure.
Speaker B:Not figure eights, I guess, zeros, backstroke, backstroke, backstroke.
Speaker B:I couldn't.
Speaker B:I couldn't go past.
Speaker B:You can't.
Speaker B:You can't see it in audio land, but I couldn't go.
Speaker B:Like, I couldn't have my arm straight out.
Speaker B:I couldn't go because I guess I leaned in too far.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker B:So I went to my massage therapist today to fix me, and she said.
Speaker B:She says, like, it looks like you did 300 bench press, but only with your left arm.
Speaker B:My chest was so tight that.
Speaker B:And the muscles, like your.
Speaker B:Your.
Speaker B:Your front delt.
Speaker B:Your front deltoid.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Was.
Speaker B:Was super tight interior.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then the.
Speaker B:The muscle behind your armpit, kind of the lat, but the upper part of the lat that connects to your armpit was super tight.
Speaker B:All of that was pulling my shoulder that I couldn't pull it backwards.
Speaker A:So you're Latamis Dorsey or something?
Speaker A:I can't remember.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:Good.
Speaker B:Good on you.
Speaker B:Good on you.
Speaker B:So anyway, she fixed all that, and.
Speaker B:Holy.
Speaker B:I. I swear, like, I. I went to heaven.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Once you're loosened up.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:And then, like, the lactic acid starts to, you know, to leave the muscle, and it's like, holy hell.
Speaker B:I get, like.
Speaker B:I get a head rush.
Speaker A:And where do you go for your massage now?
Speaker B:Deep roots.
Speaker B:Still seeing the Same person.
Speaker A:Yeah, I gotta.
Speaker B:Our old bass player works there too.
Speaker B:Go see him.
Speaker A:Oh, okay.
Speaker B:He's great.
Speaker B:He's great.
Speaker B:But finding the right massage therapist is.
Speaker B:Is a science.
Speaker B:Like you have to.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's not just technique, technique.
Speaker B:Because his technique is fantastic.
Speaker B:Our old bass player.
Speaker A:Mm.
Speaker B:He's the guy that used to sub for dad in our old classic Emperor's band.
Speaker B:Dick's Dickson.
Speaker B:He fucking fantastic bass player.
Speaker B:Like, phenomenal bass player.
Speaker B:Really good.
Speaker B:But he's there.
Speaker B:I don't know if he's a co owner.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:Anyway, great guy.
Speaker B:But I was.
Speaker B:I saw him like for the first time because like, hey, shit, he's here.
Speaker B:I see he's working here.
Speaker B:And I was kind of happy for him.
Speaker B:I wanted to give him the business.
Speaker B:And then I'm like, there's like.
Speaker B:Because for me, massage is not just like therapeutic in terms of physical therapy, but it's also a mental therapy if the massage.
Speaker B:Because I'm.
Speaker B:I'm not good.
Speaker B:Being naked in front of people, like, I get nerve.
Speaker B:I get nervous, right?
Speaker B:Like, I get nervous.
Speaker B:I, you know, I'm not like somebody like, strip the clothes like, you know these lotharios out there that can strip their clothes off at a moment's notice and get wood right away and go, I can't.
Speaker B:I could never.
Speaker B:That, that wasn't me.
Speaker B:I'm, you know, I'm a one woman guy, you know, and it takes like I, you got to build up to get naked with somebody.
Speaker B:For me.
Speaker B:I can't just do it on a whim.
Speaker B:Like, I.
Speaker A:For me, I mean, it's.
Speaker A:It's a totally different.
Speaker A:It's not a.
Speaker A:When you're saying, you know, strip off and wood and all.
Speaker A:To me, it's.
Speaker A:It's a whole different.
Speaker A:It's almost like a medical appointment.
Speaker A:I mean, you get there okay.
Speaker A:It's like, okay, get undressed.
Speaker A:Put this thing on backwards with your ass hanging out type of thing.
Speaker A:But I just get under the.
Speaker A:The thing.
Speaker A:They get the sheet and.
Speaker A:And they do.
Speaker A:Then they do their business.
Speaker A:And when they.
Speaker A:And when they're massaging you, it's not.
Speaker A:I want to say pleasurable.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's not.
Speaker B:Oh no, it's not at all.
Speaker A:It's not a sensual massage.
Speaker B:No, it's not.
Speaker A:But it is a massage.
Speaker A:And especially I like deep.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:There's a lot of force involved and it's not relaxing.
Speaker B:So like.
Speaker B:No, but I, I just don't like being naked.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:That doesn't matter.
Speaker B:I'm not saying in a sex.
Speaker B:I don't mean in a sexual sense.
Speaker B:I just mean I don't like being naked.
Speaker B:That's just.
Speaker B:It's not my, my thing, you know, so.
Speaker B:But I allow the.
Speaker B:Myself to be naked if the massage therapist is the right person.
Speaker B:Like it just.
Speaker B:But it's in cuz.
Speaker B:So she's deep tissue.
Speaker B:So I actually have to.
Speaker B:I call it Z. Brace yourself.
Speaker B:Well, no, the opposite.
Speaker B:You can't brace yourself.
Speaker B:You're supposed to do the opposite.
Speaker B:You're supposed to let go.
Speaker B:Well, yeah, yeah, myself.
Speaker B:And I just sink into the pain because there's certain parts today that hurt for sure, but it's like you just got to just, you know, bite your lip or whatever it is.
Speaker B:But you can't tense up.
Speaker B:You got to do the opposite of tensing up when you're in pain.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:For it to work properly.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Yeah, I don't tense up.
Speaker A:That's, that's not, that wasn't the right word, I guess.
Speaker A:But, but.
Speaker A:And then, you know, especially if it's deep tissue, the, the, the ones I don't like is the ones that work on your hamstrings and they're almost like they take their thumb or whatever.
Speaker A:It feels like a, A hot poker.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And they go, they go from the bottom, the back of your.
Speaker A:You know, and that part for me is very, very sensitive.
Speaker A:Probably because I sit down most of the day.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So when you're in office and you're sitting down.
Speaker B:Those worked out though.
Speaker B:You do need that done.
Speaker A:I need it done.
Speaker A:But not, you know, that hard when you're almost, you know, when the pain is so bad, you almost feel like you're in a blackout.
Speaker A:It's like, whoa, that's, that's too hard.
Speaker A:And you have to tell them like, okay.
Speaker A:And you normally wince and you like, oh my God.
Speaker A:Like just a little.
Speaker A:But, but some other people who, who do it, it's fine.
Speaker A:They, they, they do it properly.
Speaker A:They don't, you know, pinpoint it, you know, that, that directly.
Speaker A:It's more of a general in the area.
Speaker A:But it's amazing that.
Speaker A:And if you, I give you, you've massaged, you know, your wife, whatever, and you can tell where the knots are, right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Like you can tell where it's tense and it's, and it would amaze me because, you know, they would do my back and I screw up my back on my left side when I was younger and when they hit that spot, it's like, oh, my God, yes.
Speaker A:It feels so good.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It hurts, but it feels so good.
Speaker A:It's like.
Speaker A:And they know exactly where it is because they can feel it, right?
Speaker B:Do you think there's an endorphin release, like, when they hit that spot?
Speaker B:Is that.
Speaker B:What.
Speaker B:Is that what you call it, like, IND so you actually get, like, a high?
Speaker A:Who needs animals?
Speaker B:Just go for a massage.
Speaker A:Well, I mean, when you had your tattoo done, they usually say that.
Speaker A:They say, oh, it's okay.
Speaker A:The endorphins will kick in.
Speaker A:They didn't kick in your tattoo.
Speaker B:That was like a monster of a tattoo.
Speaker A:It's like, okay, so.
Speaker B:But you know what?
Speaker B:Because.
Speaker B:So I found a way.
Speaker B:Because I don't know if you know, but I do meditate and stuff, so I found a way that when the pain is there, I can actually take my brain, right, the pain centers in my brain, and disassociate it.
Speaker B:So I know the pain's there, and I can feel the pain's there, but I'm disconnecting my brain from the pain.
Speaker B:So when I get the massage and she's doing the thumb.
Speaker B:The thumb on the.
Speaker B:On the hamstring, I'm just like, fucking.
Speaker B:Just fuck.
Speaker B:And then if I let go, if I'm able to successfully let go by disconnecting that endorphin rush when she works through that knot.
Speaker B:Because I had this big fucking knot on the back of my leg for years.
Speaker B:And one of my massage therapists, the one before this one, she said, look, we can either work out this knot or we can just massage around it.
Speaker B:Or you want to get rid of the knot and.
Speaker A:Yeah, but.
Speaker B:Or do you want me to just work around it and then not get rid of it?
Speaker B:So she said.
Speaker B:I said, okay, so do it.
Speaker B:And I just, like, I just bit my lip and work through it.
Speaker B:But then I did the.
Speaker B:The Zen thing, right?
Speaker B:And I was able to work through the pain.
Speaker B:But the minute I let go and it was.
Speaker B:And let them actually do their job and release that one knot I had, and that's a knot I've had most of my life.
Speaker B:And then once it released, now I don't have that.
Speaker B:That knots gone, and it does not.
Speaker B:It starts to knot up, but it doesn't hurt anymore now when they break it out.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But when the tattoo.
Speaker B:I did the same thing is like, okay, this is starting to hurt.
Speaker B:So then I just, like, I just.
Speaker B:I, yeah, you have to get my meditation thing.
Speaker B:And then it was like.
Speaker B:Then it was like.
Speaker B:It was like, out of, like, an out of body and watching it happen.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's like, I'm just gonna take this blade.
Speaker A:I'm gonna graft some skin off your arm, and you're not gonna wince.
Speaker A:So that's almost like.
Speaker A:I was like, yeah, wow, that is painful.
Speaker A:But you just kind of.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna tense up.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna.
Speaker A:You know, I'm just gonna Zen right out.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:And that's.
Speaker B:So were you able to do that with the tattoo?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, that's awesome.
Speaker A:I had never had one before, so it was like.
Speaker A:This was like, holy crap.
Speaker B:So they did the outside small either?
Speaker A:No, I mean, well, they.
Speaker A:They did the outline first.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:And then it waited for that to heal for a couple weeks, and then it went back and did the rest.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:Or did the shading, which was, I want to say worse because they go over the same spot several times.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, but over the same hour.
Speaker A:But yeah, it's.
Speaker A:And then, you know, it's like anything else.
Speaker A:I guess it's like childbirth.
Speaker A:I mean, never.
Speaker B:Oh, it's exactly like childbirth.
Speaker A:No, but.
Speaker A:No, but I mean, like, it'll be like, never again.
Speaker A:Don't you ever touch me again.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:Then they'll be like, geez, we should have another baby.
Speaker A:It says, what did you mind.
Speaker A:Like, did you have a mind lapse?
Speaker A:Like, what?
Speaker A:That's like, people have the tattoos and they're like, oh, my God.
Speaker A:But then it.
Speaker A:Some.
Speaker A:For some people, it's an addiction.
Speaker A:Like, I've only had.
Speaker A:I only have one.
Speaker A:But some people, they can't stop at one.
Speaker A:They just.
Speaker A:It's just continuation.
Speaker A:Continuation.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But I know I haven't found anything yet that I decided that I wanted to put on myself.
Speaker B:I thought that was a probate to play.
Speaker A:What is it?
Speaker B:I'll play it again.
Speaker B:One man, one decision.
Speaker B:One desire.
Speaker B:You're describing the tattoo process.
Speaker B:I thought, well, that's appropriate.
Speaker B:Desire.
Speaker B:One man.
Speaker B:We should record.
Speaker B:You know what?
Speaker B:You should record your own spot.
Speaker B:Listen to it.
Speaker B:Never mind using that clip.
Speaker B:Do it right now.
Speaker B:Right now.
Speaker B:One man.
Speaker A:What was it?
Speaker B:One man.
Speaker B:What was the other one?
Speaker B:One man, one.
Speaker B:One man, one decision.
Speaker B:One desire.
Speaker A:Do it.
Speaker A:Do it.
Speaker B:Do it right now.
Speaker A:One man, one decision.
Speaker A:One desire.
Speaker B:Oh, way better than that guy.
Speaker B:Way better than that guy.
Speaker A:No, he's got the.
Speaker A:He's got the effects.
Speaker A:I. I need the.
Speaker A:The whole.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:The ambiance.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Crazy.
Speaker B:I've got so many.
Speaker B:So many new sound clips.
Speaker B:I want to play them all, but I'M going to try to pace it a little bit.
Speaker A:Play them according to the discussion.
Speaker B:So there's something coming up and we can talk about one of our patrons.
Speaker B:Before we got to do.
Speaker B:We have a segment we promised two weeks ago that we're going to do.
Speaker B:Might even be in three weeks ago.
Speaker B:And I reached out to the band that we're going to talk about.
Speaker B:So we really have to talk about it.
Speaker B:We have to, you know, do the thing.
Speaker B:But before I do, I wanna.
Speaker B:I'm working on something for this guy.
Speaker B:So I'm gonna.
Speaker B:He actually.
Speaker B:So I actually created a theme song for this guy, one of our patrons.
Speaker B:He.
Speaker B:Out of all.
Speaker B:Out of all.
Speaker B:I've met.
Speaker B:We've met a lot of people through the show.
Speaker B:We've become friends with a lot of people.
Speaker B:This is.
Speaker B:This is one of the guys.
Speaker B:I really want to sit down and have a beer or have a whiskey and sit around and talk about fucking comic books all fucking day.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker B:I want to go see a superhero movie with this guy.
Speaker B:I want this guy to be my heterosexual life mate.
Speaker B:I love this guy.
Speaker B:This guy's great.
Speaker A:I love you, man.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, He's a good guy.
Speaker B:I love talking to the guy.
Speaker B:So much in common.
Speaker B:So let's play the theme song for this wonderful gentleman.
Speaker B:And if he doesn't like the theme song, well, too bad it's not your show.
Speaker B:Here we go.
Speaker C:This is a song about a superhero named Tony.
Speaker C:It's called Tony.
Speaker B:So Tony Griggs is one of our patrons and that is his theme song because he is a superhero.
Speaker B:And I was asking him today.
Speaker B:We're gonna go.
Speaker B:I'm gonna go see Spider man on Friday.
Speaker B:The new Spider man movie, Spider Man 4 in this current quadrology or whatever.
Speaker A:18 Different Spider man movies.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Well, there was three originally, and then there was another two with a different actor.
Speaker B:And then there's these four with the current actor, Tom Holland.
Speaker B:And we're actually.
Speaker B:This time.
Speaker B:This is a first.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker B:We watched the trilogy with the kids and they like this Tom Holland kid.
Speaker B:They like them.
Speaker B:They like this Spider Man.
Speaker B:They like the tone.
Speaker B:The tone.
Speaker B:Is it the.
Speaker B:You haven't watched them, have you?
Speaker A:I don't think so.
Speaker A:So I didn't watch Spiderman movie.
Speaker A:I think I watched Spider Man.
Speaker A:Was it numbered like one and two?
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, I think those two.
Speaker A:And then I just kind of.
Speaker A:No, haven't watched them.
Speaker B:So the.
Speaker B:The director, his approach to the movies was treating it like a John Hughes film when he did them.
Speaker B:So you Know, you know, John Hughes is like Sixteen Candles and you know.
Speaker A:Those high school type.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And they treated like a high school movie.
Speaker B:First, First Love, all that sort of.
Speaker B:So that's how he treated the movies.
Speaker B:And kind of.
Speaker B:Kind of not comedy, straight up comedy, but like a John Cusack comedy where it's.
Speaker B:You're.
Speaker B:You're kind of chuckling, but it's not funny, but it's just humorous, I guess, like that kind of humor.
Speaker B:And he treated the movies that way and it resonated, which is interesting because John Hughes is like what, fucking 40 years ago.
Speaker B:His movies like 40 years ago.
Speaker B:But it just goes to show that that style of comedy and John Hughes is a fucking genius, that it still translates now.
Speaker A:Well, if you watch some of those movie channels that play repeat movies, it's all the Cusack.
Speaker A:It's all those type of.
Speaker A:All those Sixteen Candles and stuff like that and.
Speaker A:Oh, wow.
Speaker B:Yeah, say anything or Ferris Bueller's Day off or.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:You know, like all those Uncle Buck.
Speaker B:He wrote Home Alone too.
Speaker B:Like that.
Speaker B:He.
Speaker B:He wrote that movie, right?
Speaker B:No, like fucking talented guy.
Speaker B:I forgot why we're talking about Tony, but I just want to give a shout out to Tony because he's a good dude.
Speaker B:One day.
Speaker B:One day we're gonna have.
Speaker B:Have a beer.
Speaker B:But topic at hand that we're gonna talk about today.
Speaker B:So this is kind of on the wheel.
Speaker B:So we're gonna play the Spinning Wheel song because that's.
Speaker B:People have requested it.
Speaker C:Spinning Wheel on our show.
Speaker B:No one else does it.
Speaker C:We are so original.
Speaker C:Get up on Patreon so you can write add on all your topics onto our wheel of Spy.
Speaker B:Oh, I love that dive bomb.
Speaker B:Oh, beautiful.
Speaker B:So this has been on.
Speaker B:This has been on the wheel for a while and I wanted to take it off the wheel because there's a few reason.
Speaker B:I want a few reasons.
Speaker B:I want to talk about this man.
Speaker B:I don't know if you ever met Ray and Hoffer or not.
Speaker B:Have you ever met Ray?
Speaker B:Did we used to work at.
Speaker A:Oh no, no, he's an electrician at.
Speaker B:Our at work Ray and offer Ray over.
Speaker A:Oh, Ray of not half Hoffer.
Speaker A:Sorry.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Ettenhofer.
Speaker A:Ettenhofer.
Speaker B:So I worked with him and he had a band and then I would go.
Speaker B:He said, oh, you got a band?
Speaker B:So I'm like, yeah, I'll go go check it out.
Speaker B:You know, not expecting anything but wanting to be supportive.
Speaker B:And you know, what if you know somebody and they have a band and they ask you to Come see them.
Speaker B:You should probably just go see them.
Speaker B:Good or bad, it doesn't matter.
Speaker B:Supporting bands is important.
Speaker B:As we talked about earlier in the show, you got to go support.
Speaker A:It's an eight out too.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I think I might have taken you to one of their shows at one point.
Speaker B:This would have been like mid-90s.
Speaker B:I guess I should actually pull out the CD over here.
Speaker B:But anyway, so I went to see him.
Speaker B:I was like, wow, they're actually really good.
Speaker B:Like, I'm really enjoying it.
Speaker B:They had three different singers in the band, which was, which is cool because each person was writing and there's a different dynamic.
Speaker B:And the sound kind of like the sound shifts, Right.
Speaker B:It's not always the same sound all the way through.
Speaker B:It's kind of like Kiss.
Speaker B:How you know, you've got four different singers, four different songwriters.
Speaker B:Kind of adds a dynamic to it.
Speaker B:And I always like that, you know, like from all the way back from the Beatles too.
Speaker B:Doing the same.
Speaker A:Yeah, or Joe Walsh or Glenn Fry.
Speaker A:Like everyone has their own, you know, when they sing, it gives it a different taste.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's the same pizza, but different taste.
Speaker A:Well, yeah, but you're more mushrooms.
Speaker A:One's got all of this.
Speaker B:It's four different toppings on the pizza, right.
Speaker B:You've got your Hawaiian corner of the pizza.
Speaker B:You get your pepperoni, then you might have like a spicy.
Speaker B:I love Hawaiian.
Speaker A:I love Hawaiian.
Speaker A:I don't know what the deal is with.
Speaker B:Put pineapple.
Speaker B:With pineapple.
Speaker B:Pineapple and chicken and bacon with ranch.
Speaker B:Phenomenal.
Speaker A:You know what?
Speaker A:One of these days I'm gonna cut out some cherries.
Speaker A:I'm gonna say it.
Speaker A:You know what?
Speaker A:I'm gonna put cherries on the pizza.
Speaker A:Never mind.
Speaker A:Just a pineapple.
Speaker A:I'm gonna open up a goddamn can of fruit cocktail.
Speaker A:I'm gonna drain the out of it, and I'm gonna put on the goddamn pizza.
Speaker A:I'm gonna put cheese on it and I don't care cheese.
Speaker A:If it goes with whatever, pears or whatever.
Speaker A:I don't care.
Speaker A:It's all gonna go together.
Speaker A:Gonna try it out.
Speaker B:You keep going.
Speaker A:With garlic.
Speaker B:You know what?
Speaker B:Cherries might be interesting.
Speaker B:I like.
Speaker B:I like sweet.
Speaker B:I like sweet paired with salt.
Speaker B:I like that, that pairing.
Speaker A:Sweet and salty.
Speaker A:I mean, you can buy chocolate bar.
Speaker A:Sweet and salty.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, why not?
Speaker A:Oh, that's great.
Speaker A:Yeah, you can have cherries with chocolate.
Speaker A:Look at the.
Speaker A:The cherry blossom.
Speaker B:Cherry blossom.
Speaker B:Dad's favorite.
Speaker A:Make up.
Speaker A:Make a pineapple blossom.
Speaker A:Who says you have to dip strawberries in freaking Chocolate.
Speaker A:You can.
Speaker A:Whatever you want.
Speaker A:You could have a fondue, open up a fruit cocktail.
Speaker B:Oh my God.
Speaker A:Try each one.
Speaker A:Yeah, actually, as a matter of fact, I've got a fruit cocktail in the fridge.
Speaker A:We've had it there for a while because we like it when it's cold.
Speaker A:Usually when they're in the cupboard, they're not that great.
Speaker A:What are you doing?
Speaker B:I was showing you my ass, wasn't I?
Speaker A:I was gonna say.
Speaker A:Oh, you haven't been eating that, that, that salad that gives you explosive diarrhea, have you?
Speaker A:Oh, no.
Speaker B:Okay, so I don't have my glasses here, so I'm trying to see the year of this cd, okay?
Speaker B:Who the fuck is texting me?
Speaker B:I'm in the middle of a podcast, motherfucker.
Speaker B:Oh yeah, Fucking Corey Morissette fucking again.
Speaker B:Well, he's not fucking again.
Speaker B:He's doing his podcast again, but okay, shut up, dude.
Speaker B:I'm working here.
Speaker A:So what's he saying, you guys?
Speaker B:Oh, no, he's recording the same night as us, so I can't go on his show.
Speaker B:He can't come on our show.
Speaker B:Fucking guy.
Speaker B:You know what, Corey Morissette, it's okay, enough for that.
Speaker B:Okay, so this band, so Ray enough for was the guy I worked with.
Speaker B:He was a guitar player and one of the singers in the band.
Speaker B:I went and go saw them and I was like, this is really cool.
Speaker B:It was a.
Speaker B:A guitar player, a keyboard player, a bass player and a drummer.
Speaker B:And the drummer was ambidextrous.
Speaker B:So he could play left handed or right handed, which was awesome.
Speaker A:Play upside down.
Speaker B:No, he wasn't.
Speaker B:Omni.
Speaker A:Omnidextrous.
Speaker B:That's the word.
Speaker B:Omnidextrous.
Speaker B:But anyway, so I really enjoyed.
Speaker B:And they played with like a lot of like kind of like all kind of alternative.
Speaker B:Not alternative like Nirvana and stuff, but alternative, like mid-90s alternative stuff.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:Well, let's play a song so we can actually illustrate.
Speaker A:It's not grungish.
Speaker B:No, no, not that grungy.
Speaker B:We kind of.
Speaker A:I wonder mid-90s.
Speaker B:I'm just wondering if they're on.
Speaker B:Hang on.
Speaker B:I don't think they're on streaming, but we're going to look if they are.
Speaker A:So you growing your beard back?
Speaker B:I think I will in the fall.
Speaker A:In the fall?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I was trying to catch up to you, but I don't.
Speaker A:I didn't do the sides, I just did the.
Speaker A:The chin strap.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, I was trying to see.
Speaker B:They actually have a video for one of the songs.
Speaker B:So when we so we're gonna listen to a little bit of Bliss for the first part of the show.
Speaker B:So Bliss is the name of the band.
Speaker B:If my eyes worked, I could tell you the year it was released.
Speaker B:I think it's 95 recorded by Lynn Milne at Bedside Studios.
Speaker B:And the font is a really not good color so I can't make out the year.
Speaker A:Bedside Studios.
Speaker B:Bedside Studios.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:There's a name of us recording studio.
Speaker B:It's a good name.
Speaker B:I can't find the date on here.
Speaker B:I think it was like mid-90s.
Speaker B:95.
Speaker B:96.
Speaker B: Copyright: Speaker B:My mistake.
Speaker A:Still, it still exists.
Speaker B:Oh no, it's still there.
Speaker B:I actually follow him in.
Speaker A:4.6 Out of us 5.
Speaker A:Holy crap.
Speaker A:Look at that.
Speaker A:Oh, it's in Winnipeg.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:I think they're still doing analog to.
Speaker A:Their award winning music recording and production facility now.
Speaker B:Len Milney.
Speaker B:I think there's a story with who Len Milne is.
Speaker B:I don't know, some tie to,.
Speaker A:Let's.
Speaker B:See, over 30 years.
Speaker A:Whatever.
Speaker B:It's fine.
Speaker B:Continue to cite.
Speaker A:So this is where this, where you're gonna be playing?
Speaker A:This is where this was recorded?
Speaker B:Yeah, this is where they recorded this album.
Speaker B:I think he had ties to a lot of like, like he's been around for 30 years, like doing stuff.
Speaker B:So on Pritchard Avenue.
Speaker B:Anyway, I, I, the, the song, the, the production quality is good.
Speaker B:I don't have an issue with it at all.
Speaker B:It's good, good stuff.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker B:So what I want is.
Speaker B:I think I dragged you to one of their shows before and I'm gonna see if I can provide Bend Winnipeg.
Speaker B:There is a, I think a bit of a Wikipedia page here.
Speaker B:I can't find it anywhere.
Speaker B:Oh, whatever.
Speaker B:I'm just gonna wing it.
Speaker A:I can't find.
Speaker B:But, but so, so they, they played a lot of shows, right?
Speaker B:They, they ended up, they did a tour of western usa like up the.
Speaker B:They kind of, I think from Los Angeles up through Oregon, Washington, bc.
Speaker B:They've done cross Canada tours many, many, many times.
Speaker B:A lot of the times they were.
Speaker B:Some of the bands they were opening for.
Speaker B:They played with the New Meanies a lot.
Speaker B:They're friends with the New Meanies.
Speaker B:They played, they opened for Paul Rogers on a show.
Speaker B:You know Paul Rogers from Free Free Free.
Speaker B:No, bad company, sorry.
Speaker B:And then they also opened up for a band called Fastball.
Speaker B:Do you remember Fastball?
Speaker A:Nope.
Speaker A:That's the first time I've heard that name.
Speaker B:Okay, well, they are huge band.
Speaker B:Here's the song.
Speaker A:Yeah, I do.
Speaker A:It's all Mono that goes into stereo.
Speaker B:So they.
Speaker B:They got to open for a lot of.
Speaker B:A lot of bands.
Speaker A:Just.
Speaker B:They're out there just working, just playing, opening for whoever they could open for.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:They play.
Speaker B:I saw them play a number of times.
Speaker B:They played a lot of shows.
Speaker B:I think they played a lot of shows with Leader House, which we've done multiple episodes about.
Speaker B:My.
Speaker B:Which Leader House is the Leader House album hosts the vocals of my favorite vocalist of all time, so there, Matt Budoloski.
Speaker B:Anyway, so.
Speaker B:So I go see them like, that's Ray up there.
Speaker B:And Holy.
Speaker B:He's singing.
Speaker B:And he sounds actually pretty good.
Speaker B:Now, the thing to keep in mind with this, you took a listen to some of these songs, right?
Speaker B:I. I sent you a whole bunch of them,.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Sounds like homework.
Speaker B:Well, the homework.
Speaker B:We're gonna do it here, I guess.
Speaker B:They actually got played quite.
Speaker B:Quite a bit on either Power 97 or Powder 90 or 92 City FM, one of the two radio stations separately.
Speaker A:Recognize them?
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker A:Well, that song you just played.
Speaker A:Yeah, I've heard it on the radio.
Speaker B:Well, no, that's Fastball.
Speaker B:That song was Fastball.
Speaker B:That's open for.
Speaker A:Oh, okay, okay.
Speaker A:Not the same.
Speaker A:Sorry.
Speaker B:But they also had a music video, which you and I will take a peek at there in a bit.
Speaker B:Okay, but this is the song.
Speaker B:This is a song that I like raising in on this one.
Speaker B:I like the song.
Speaker B:I like everything about it.
Speaker B:It's a short little ditty.
Speaker B:It's a lot of fun.
Speaker B:If you want to find it, I'm gonna see about sending links somehow to their music because they're not on streaming.
Speaker B:So I wanted to reach out to the band and talk and try to see if, like, look, you guys willing to add your stuff to streaming?
Speaker B:Do you want me to help you with that?
Speaker B:Do you know how to do it?
Speaker B:Because not everybody knows how to add their stuff to streaming.
Speaker B:But anyway, this song is called the Way It Is.
Speaker B:The band is called Bliss.
Speaker B:And let's take a peek under the.
Speaker A:Hood.
Speaker B:Of course it takes a second now.
Speaker C:Didn't know what time it was it must be getting late first time I saw you, man I could have sworn it was fake and that's the way it appears it was all in my mind I made it for you it was all in my mind I made it for you it's out of my mind I made it for you Feel the sound of mine and that's the way it is.
Speaker C:So what a story about you you had your head in the ground so thought I'D pick it up put it back in the clouds today and that's the way it is it was all in my mind Now I made it for you it was all in my mind Now I made it for you it was all in my mind Now I made it for.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:Sam.
Speaker C:If it's out of my mind I made it for you if it's out of my mind I made it for you if it's out of my mind that I made it for you if it's out of my mind and that's the way it is that's the way it is.
Speaker C:That's the way it feels and that's the way it is.
Speaker B:Sorry, I was like.
Speaker B:I was gonna stop it partway through.
Speaker B:Like, I can't.
Speaker B:Was having too much fun.
Speaker A:That sounds very.
Speaker A:Not overproduced, like a minimalist.
Speaker A:It sounds like Abby Rhodes do.
Speaker A:It sounds like Beatles.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Even.
Speaker A:Even the groove kind of thing.
Speaker A:And then the bass, then the lines that he's doing it.
Speaker A:And if it would have been like Paul's voice or, you know, John Lennon's voice with the music, it would have been.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's their stuff.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because it kind of sounded the same.
Speaker B:So what did you.
Speaker B:What's your.
Speaker B:What's your analysis of this song?
Speaker A:I just told you.
Speaker B:No, no, but I mean, like, did you like it?
Speaker A:Yeah, it was good.
Speaker A:It was good.
Speaker A:It was a good.
Speaker A:It was a good.
Speaker A:Say, party.
Speaker A:You got a party going on and people are talking away and you get this kind of jamming in the background.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Like, they used to play this around a campfire, if I recall.
Speaker B:They used to.
Speaker B:The members would go camping all the.
Speaker A:Time and like, the drummers all over the place.
Speaker B:He's so good.
Speaker B:He was my favorite drummer in Winnipeg.
Speaker B:Well, my second favorite drummer in Winnipeg.
Speaker A:For.
Speaker B:For a long time.
Speaker B:Just because he could.
Speaker B:Because he was ambidextrous.
Speaker B:He could.
Speaker B:When his roles would.
Speaker B:Would work differently.
Speaker B:Like, he wouldn't be leading with the same hand all the time.
Speaker B:He'd be leading with a different hand.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So does he play jazz style or does he play regular?
Speaker A:Like you're rocking.
Speaker B:Sorry, I'm making a beverage.
Speaker B:I try to remember.
Speaker B:I don't remember exactly, but, you know, just phenomenal.
Speaker B:Like, just phenomenal.
Speaker B:Like, all of them talented and that.
Speaker B:A harmonica solo.
Speaker B:Not bad, eh?
Speaker A:Yeah, the harmonica was really good.
Speaker B:That was the keyboard player.
Speaker A:He really fit in nice.
Speaker B:Yeah, he was.
Speaker B:He played harmonica.
Speaker B:Guy played keyboards.
Speaker B:Sorry, keyboard player.
Speaker A:Keyboard guy played harmonica.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So that wasn't even a single.
Speaker B:They had two singles and that wasn't one of the singles.
Speaker B:Oh, isn't that weird?
Speaker A:One of the singles is one of the ones that we would have heard on the radio.
Speaker A:Correct.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:So anyway, so they did the first album they did with Len Milne.
Speaker B:They prom.
Speaker B:They promoted the out of it.
Speaker B:The out.
Speaker B:We're gonna go into what happened afterwards in terms of changes music style.
Speaker B:But let you.
Speaker B:Let's.
Speaker B:So let's listen to.
Speaker B:Okay, so this was the single that got played on the radio.
Speaker B:It's called Telephone Booth.
Speaker B:Ready?
Speaker A:Okay, hit play.
Speaker B:I might have to turn it up here.
Speaker C:My feeling.
Speaker C:I'm nobody so sa.
Speaker C:I knew you.
Speaker B:So what.
Speaker B:What vibe are you getting off of this one?
Speaker A:Black Sabbath sounds like Aussie.
Speaker A:It sounds like Aussie settings is like.
Speaker B:Yeah, wow.
Speaker A:He's got.
Speaker A:He's got his like the echo ish sound that Ozzy had.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Or has.
Speaker A:He's just kind of modified a little bit.
Speaker B:But yeah, that's got it.
Speaker B:That's got to be a Lynn Milne production there, I'm guessing.
Speaker B:And that's the same guy.
Speaker B:That's Ray again singing on this one.
Speaker A:Yeah, definitely different mix, but yeah.
Speaker B:Now, so that was Telephone Booth.
Speaker B:I. I believe that's.
Speaker B:That's one.
Speaker B:That guy.
Speaker B:Some play.
Speaker A:I don't remember hearing that one at all.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:92 Or 97.
Speaker B:Well, this one I think at play.
Speaker B:So I'm gonna play Ride on, which is.
Speaker B:Now this is Justin on vocals.
Speaker B:Is the keyboardist in the harmonica player.
Speaker B:He was.
Speaker B:This is the only.
Speaker B:I think he was a. I don't know the whole story and it could be wrong.
Speaker B:And I apologize if, you know, if the members of Bliss are listening.
Speaker B:I apologize if I'm getting some of the information wrong.
Speaker B:This is hearsay.
Speaker B:A lot of it.
Speaker B:And it's stuff I've kind of cobbled together timeline wise in my head.
Speaker B:But I believe Justin was a later addition to the band.
Speaker B:And so therefore, like, I think his involvement in the album maybe was latter in it or he was just.
Speaker B:He joined just as they're going the studio.
Speaker B:So Mike was the bass player.
Speaker B:He wrote a lot of the songs.
Speaker B:Ray was the other guy who wrote a lot of the songs.
Speaker B:And then, you know, and then Justin was coming in, I think later in the process.
Speaker B:So when they released their second album, there was a more Justin involvement.
Speaker B:But this is Justin's song Ride on, which is again, so the first two songs.
Speaker B:Completely different style.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Musically, completely different styles.
Speaker A:Totally, totally different styles.
Speaker B:Okay, now listen to this one.
Speaker B:Even different again.
Speaker B:And I'm curious what you pick out of this one.
Speaker B:This is Ride on with Justin on vocals.
Speaker B:This is the band Bliss.
Speaker C:I got my bags packed and I'm taking off with lots to see When I'm only getting old well, dragging me down is all you seem to do well, I've got news for you I don't need you no more Well, I don't need you no more.
Speaker C:I seem to say this quite a lot.
Speaker C:You say you're telling the truth and I know you're not.
Speaker C:Why is it a seem to hang around for this?
Speaker C:I guess I like to dream Nothing won't let.
Speaker C:Right on, right on, right on.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:Right on, right on, right on.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:You should open your eyes to see that.
Speaker C:That in the end much better you'll be.
Speaker C:I'm always thinking about only myself when you're.
Speaker C:You're always thinking about everyone else.
Speaker A:Okay,.
Speaker B:Comment.
Speaker A:The first thing that popped into my head was this sounds like.
Speaker A:Remember when you're playing with Salty Bear.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:It had a lot of remnants of when you were playing the keyboards for one of the songs.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Either that or I've heard this song before, but it was like, this sounds so familiar, but in a different.
Speaker B:So the piano stylings of Sean McGinty.
Speaker A:That's kind of what it sounded like.
Speaker A:Maybe I'm totally wrong.
Speaker A:Maybe I'm totally wrong.
Speaker B:That's pretty interesting.
Speaker A:Maybe it was just.
Speaker A:Maybe it was just this song that I had heard before.
Speaker A:But yeah, it was weird.
Speaker B:Interesting.
Speaker B:All right, vocally speaking.
Speaker B:So this is Justin.
Speaker B:So this is one of the other singers in the band.
Speaker A:He's a lot lighter.
Speaker A:He's not a raspy or, you know, out front vocalist on this.
Speaker A:This is kind of like I'm at a keyboard and I'm playing and I'm singing along.
Speaker A:Like John or Elton John type thing.
Speaker A:Kind of sorta, but more back.
Speaker A:So I don't know if it was the effects of his voice or just his voice.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The strength of it isn't like riding your face.
Speaker A:It's more kind of.
Speaker A:Kind of mellow and more back.
Speaker A:But yeah, definitely a different vibe again.
Speaker A:Like, that's another style altogether.
Speaker A:So keyboard heavy oriented.
Speaker B:So this is what this is.
Speaker B:And I'll try to share this in the show notes because I know I can at least share this.
Speaker B:This was.
Speaker B:They did a music video.
Speaker B:They got a government grant, like, you know, one of those Manitoba music grants.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:To make a music video.
Speaker B:So they made a music video for this one when they had to pick what song they're going to make a music video for.
Speaker B:This is the song they picked and they did the music video.
Speaker B:Now, again, if I'm getting the information wrong, I apologize, but I believe it was on the latter end of the, like, touring the album, going all over the place, touring the album.
Speaker B:Justin has now been in the band for a while.
Speaker B:They're seeing the strength in Justin and I don't know, but I hear a lot of.
Speaker B:Here's the two things I hear in this song.
Speaker B:The piano playing was very reminiscent of Burton Cummings.
Speaker B:The way he.
Speaker B:Like that.
Speaker B:Sort of same kind of the way he.
Speaker B:I don't know what the word is.
Speaker B:Not trips over the keys, but the way Burton would roll through the notes on the key on the.
Speaker B:On the piano.
Speaker B:Like kind of the.
Speaker B:The runs.
Speaker B:He would do very similar, which is a huge compliment, actually.
Speaker B:I hate Burton Cummings, but he's a damn good piano player.
Speaker B:And also I hear some super in there, too, because they're heavily influenced by Super Tramp.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:A little bit of that bigger band sound.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But in a smaller.
Speaker A:Smaller group, I guess.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:How many people were in Super Trap?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Twelve.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker A:No wonder it sounded huge just because there's so many people in it, but.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:You're bloody well right.
Speaker B:Is she trying to give you alcohol?
Speaker B:Ply you with alcohol?
Speaker B:Calling for any of it?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:Hello?
Speaker B:Donda.
Speaker B:Did you just say no?
Speaker A:Huh?
Speaker A:Sean just said.
Speaker A:Hi.
Speaker C:Hi.
Speaker C:Did you just say I could have.
Speaker B:A piece of ice?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:You can.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker B:I just want wine because I cannot drink this.
Speaker B:It tastes terrible.
Speaker A:Took all the ice.
Speaker B:Apparently Todd doesn't know how to make a drink.
Speaker A:Is that what's going to drink?
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:No, I.
Speaker A:We went to Co Op and then Co Op is like, It's.
Speaker A:Was it 10.99 for three things of ice?
Speaker A:And I bought some and I thought it was like a week ago, a couple weeks ago.
Speaker A:And then I still had an extra bag and then I bought three more and then I thought I had four bags.
Speaker A:And now today we went to look and we only had like crumbs, so I poured some in my glass and then there was.
Speaker A:Wasn't a whole lot left, so I dumped the rest in the sink.
Speaker A:And then we're.
Speaker A:We don't have any.
Speaker B:So my question for Donda is this.
Speaker B:You can't handle the truth.
Speaker B:Is that the truth, though?
Speaker B:You paid 10.99 for three bags anyway,.
Speaker A:Two bags of ice.
Speaker A:I'm short on ice.
Speaker A:We had to Buy ice.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:So before we finish this segment on Bliss.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:I don't know if we're gonna finish it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But I do want to make sure I showcase all the vocalists.
Speaker B:We played two Ray tracks because Ray was my buddy.
Speaker B:And Ray passed away a number of years ago.
Speaker B:And I'm kind of bummed that it happened.
Speaker B:He was a good guy to me and he was actually when I had my.
Speaker B:What do you call it?
Speaker A:Divorce.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:That's the right word.
Speaker B:But it felt like, you know, when, when someone comes out of the closet sort of thing, right.
Speaker B:They're like, you know, I've been gay all along and now I'm going to tell everybody I'm gay.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Like, it was.
Speaker B:It's a big deal.
Speaker B:It's, it's, it's, hey, telling everybody I'm me and this is who I really am.
Speaker B:That sort of thing.
Speaker B:And in a way it kind of felt the same.
Speaker B:Not the same way, but in a similar way.
Speaker B:It was like I was in a relationship that was not good.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:Borderline abusive, I guess it was, it wasn't a good relationship.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Toxic.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So to actually.
Speaker B:So it was my coming out.
Speaker B:I had a coming out party.
Speaker B:It was stupid.
Speaker B:I'm not, I'm not saying I came out as gay or anything.
Speaker B:I'm just saying I came out as alive.
Speaker B:I came out alive.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:But it was, but they called it a coming out party.
Speaker B:Okay, that, that they had for me and Ray was there and it was interesting.
Speaker B:And look, and if, if, if I wax poetic here, I apologize.
Speaker B:But that night was a very important moment in my life.
Speaker B:So just, just to frame everything so I was in a toxic relationship.
Speaker B:It was very.
Speaker B:Not good.
Speaker B:And you know, Todd, you know the whole story, it wasn't good.
Speaker B:And I was very fragile.
Speaker B:I was in a really bad place emotionally.
Speaker B:I was also in a very bad place financially because when I, the, the separation happened and I was out of the house, I also got fired from my job and I got kicked out of my house because I wasn't going to live there with my soon to be ex wife.
Speaker B:So I had no home, I had no job.
Speaker B:I had nowhere to be.
Speaker B:So I lived in my car for two weeks and on couches.
Speaker B:I was couch surfing and living in my car.
Speaker B:And I never told you because I was too fucking embarrassed.
Speaker B:But anyway, so the, the important part.
Speaker B:So the important part about Ray here, and I do want to thank Ray for.
Speaker B:This is my friend Skelly, who I've talked about on the show many, many times.
Speaker B:He said, look, you can sleep on my couch.
Speaker B:You're coming to my house Friday night, you're gonna come to my house, and we're gonna treat you like a human being because you have not been treated like a human being for the last 10 years.
Speaker B:I'm like, okay, whatever.
Speaker B:I didn't.
Speaker B:I was like.
Speaker B:I was so malleable.
Speaker B:Like, yeah, okay, whatever.
Speaker B:Yeah, whatever.
Speaker B:Whatever.
Speaker B:Whatever, Right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so he set up this party, and it was.
Speaker B:It was kind of for me, this party, right?
Speaker B:And I, like.
Speaker B:I'm oblivious.
Speaker B:Like, I'm punch drunk.
Speaker B:I can't form a sentence.
Speaker B:I am.
Speaker B:I have no cognitive abilities.
Speaker B:Like, I'm.
Speaker B:I'm pretty fucked up.
Speaker B:Like, you know, the lowest of the low, the lowest I've ever been.
Speaker B:So I go to his place, and he said, look, there's people coming later.
Speaker B:But right now, you know.
Speaker B:So anyway, the whole evening led up to the big party after.
Speaker B:But at first they wanted to make sure I was okay.
Speaker B:Skelly and his girlfriend slash wife or whatever was there, and they're just.
Speaker B:They were so kind, so giving.
Speaker B:Sleep here, you know?
Speaker B:Sleep here.
Speaker B:You're going to sleep here tonight.
Speaker B:You're sleep here tomorrow, and then we'll worry about all the other stuff later.
Speaker B:Later.
Speaker B:He did hire me to work for him as an apprentice until I could get a job.
Speaker A:Job, right?
Speaker B:And so he let me sleep on his couch for a bit.
Speaker B:I also slept in my car.
Speaker B:But anyway, so anyway, so the party later.
Speaker B:So let's get.
Speaker B:I know I'm slow at getting to the point, but later that night, Ray shows up.
Speaker B:And I'd worked with Ray, and we both knew Skelly, and Ray saw me, and he's like, wow, you're actually here.
Speaker B:I'm like, yeah, I guess I'm here, like.
Speaker B:And he looked at me, he goes, I can't remember exactly the words he said, but the general intent was, you are a good human being.
Speaker B:You deserve to be loved.
Speaker B:And I want you to have the most fun tonight you've had in the last 10 years because you fucking deserve it.
Speaker B:And it's like, I didn't know the guy that well.
Speaker B:I worked with him, seen him play a couple times, but he understood where I was emotionally and in every way.
Speaker B:So that night was a night of.
Speaker B:He just.
Speaker B:He was like my brother that night.
Speaker B:You know, I hadn't talked to you yet.
Speaker B:You didn't know what was going on.
Speaker B:I was afraid to tell my family what was going on, so.
Speaker B:But he stepped in to tell Me, I was good enough.
Speaker B:So I'm like.
Speaker B:I'm never gonna forget that.
Speaker B:Like, the people that helped me.
Speaker B:You helped me too.
Speaker B:Don't you?
Speaker B:Definitely helped me, but I was too fucking proud to tell my family what had happened.
Speaker B:So I had a few people that helped me transition to letting you know and letting mom and dad know and all that sort of stuff to, you know, what had happened, because I was embarrassed beyond belief.
Speaker A:This was just before that you moved in that place that had the weirdly slanted floor.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:The weirdly slanted floor.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker A:In the piano.
Speaker A:You guys had.
Speaker B:And the piano.
Speaker B:Yeah, The.
Speaker A:The folk festival.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But anyway, so I kind of.
Speaker B:So I.
Speaker B:When I talk about Ray, I do get a little emotional.
Speaker B:I know there's.
Speaker B:You know what?
Speaker B:I don't want to go into the other stuff, but Rey was good to me when he needed.
Speaker B:When I needed someone to be good to me.
Speaker B:And he supported me and he gave me a hug and all this sort of stuff and did everything.
Speaker B:So I played two Ray songs.
Speaker B:I played a Justin song.
Speaker B:I don't know Justin at all.
Speaker B:I've met him.
Speaker B:Probably doesn't remember me at all, which is fine.
Speaker B:But I reached out to Mike, and Mike was the bass player.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:So we're gonna play a song, a bit of a song by Mike.
Speaker B:It's called Joe the Shrink.
Speaker B:Different vocal style again.
Speaker B:Different writing style again.
Speaker B:Mike's writing is very different, which is what I.
Speaker B:My.
Speaker B:Kind of like my favorite thing of the band.
Speaker B:So let's play us a second of.
Speaker B:Of Mike.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker C:Excuse me, friend.
Speaker C:I'm not myself today.
Speaker C:Seems I just love to watch things fade.
Speaker C:Can't enjoy the moments when they're here Cause in my tired there's so much left to fear.
Speaker C:Over and under 14 years of pain.
Speaker B:I woke up.
Speaker C:Has turn black.
Speaker B:Who.
Speaker C:Said the stars don't fall from the sky?
Speaker B:So isn't this kind of interesting?
Speaker B:All these different styles.
Speaker B:One album, one band.
Speaker A:This is like Tesla meets Kim Mitchell or Bob Dylan.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:It's got a different ring.
Speaker A:He's got a different thing to it, definitely.
Speaker A:But, yeah, everything was different.
Speaker A:It was like four different albums.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:They weren't even related to each other.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And even the two Ray songs don't sign this sound the same.
Speaker B:I think that's what I really liked about this album was it was all over the place.
Speaker B:I don't like too much same.
Speaker B:I like.
Speaker B:I like a little bit of everything.
Speaker B:And it was fun because when you'd see them live.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:It was always entertaining.
Speaker B:And then Mike.
Speaker B:Mike was the best.
Speaker B:He was so good because he was such a rock star.
Speaker B:Even though he's playing in Winnipeg, he come out, go, hello, Winnipeg.
Speaker B:You know, devil horns or whatever.
Speaker A:Pretty much every band.
Speaker B:Well, but he was.
Speaker B:It was like he was playing to like 20,000 people at Madison Square Garden or something.
Speaker B:Every time he played.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, you got to play.
Speaker A:You got to play it up like you're, you know, playing for 50, 000 people.
Speaker B:And so when we played that time at the Handsome Daughter, was it the Handsome Daughter on our first show, our first bigger show that we played?
Speaker B:Marlboro?
Speaker B:No, no, no, Portage.
Speaker B:It was a Handsome Daughter.
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker B:It was that little.
Speaker B:Is the back room stage wasn't quite big enough.
Speaker A:Is that the.
Speaker A:One of the stages on the floor?
Speaker B:Yes or no?
Speaker B:No, no, no.
Speaker B:That was.
Speaker B:That was the.
Speaker B:I can't remember the name of that place anyway, but when I.
Speaker B:We played that show, I don't know if you remember, but the first thing I said when I came out, hello, Winnipeg.
Speaker B:That was in.
Speaker B:That was an honor to Mike from Bliss.
Speaker B:I was like, copying a mic there, for sure.
Speaker B:So after they did this album, I think, and I don't know if people got in their ear or not, I wasn't really sure what was going on, but they went into.
Speaker B:Into the studio to do their.
Speaker B:Their next album, and I think they really had like a.
Speaker B:Like a meeting to say, okay, what.
Speaker B:What are we doing here?
Speaker B:What are we doing this time?
Speaker B:How are we going to approach.
Speaker B:How are we going to approach this?
Speaker B:So one thing is they renamed the band because there's many Blinds bands called Bliss.
Speaker B:So they renamed the band.
Speaker B:We got to have something catchy that people are gonna remember, right?
Speaker B:So they rename themselves to Gin Taxi.
Speaker B:No idea what the fuck that means, but it is memorable.
Speaker A:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:And then the other thing they did, so they.
Speaker B:I'm trying to remember the studio.
Speaker B:They went into Studio 21.
Speaker B:Let me just look this up.
Speaker B:Brandon.
Speaker B:No, studio.
Speaker B:I found some politician guy.
Speaker B:Brandon Friesen, Studio 11.
Speaker B:So they went and recorded there.
Speaker B:I believe Chantel Karavazi recorded there.
Speaker B:And a bunch of people, like, kind of a lot of, you know, Grammy slash, whatever.
Speaker B:The Canadian one is like.
Speaker B:No, no, he nominated Juno.
Speaker B:Sorry.
Speaker B:Yeah, Juno nominated.
Speaker B:He's got a lot of stuff under his belt, right?
Speaker B:Anyway, so they went and recorded with him.
Speaker B:They got another grant.
Speaker B:I'm assuming they got a grant.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:They go and record.
Speaker B:So I don't know where the decision making process happened, but I'm.
Speaker B:I'm gonna air some dirty laundry here, if I may.
Speaker B:So they go into the studio with Brandon Friesen and at some point somebody makes a decision somewhere.
Speaker B:Now I really enjoyed Call of Duty, Modern Warfare pre order now, apparently I just, I have to know this right now.
Speaker B:This just popped up on my screen.
Speaker B:Well, I could give two shits about Call of Duty.
Speaker B:Anyway.
Speaker A:Was that steam installed?
Speaker B:Oh, it's Xbox.
Speaker B:But anyway, so they go into the studio and they decide to.
Speaker B:Okay, look, I know we got three singers, but Justin's going to take all the vocals.
Speaker B:Justin's a good vocalist.
Speaker B:He's the one that played on the piano, the pianoish song.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Good vocalist, it's fine.
Speaker B:But we're going to have one vocalist.
Speaker B:They tailored the guitars back.
Speaker B:The keyboard was a bit more prominent, like more in the front.
Speaker B:And at the time there was a lot of bands that kind of had that they had a sound and it was, it was, you know, anyway, they followed particular formula.
Speaker B:They changed the formula that they had because it was.
Speaker B:I don't, I don't know the reasons, but I can understand.
Speaker B:My perception is, look, it's busy.
Speaker B:We got three singers, we got three different songwriters in the band.
Speaker B:The songs are all over the place.
Speaker B:One song sounds like Ozzy, one song sounds like Pink Floyd, one song sounds like.
Speaker B:REO Speedwagon or something, I don't know.
Speaker B:But they, they, they, they're all over the place now.
Speaker B:Personally, I prefer that.
Speaker B:I like that and that's why I like the band.
Speaker B:They didn't have a sound and then stuck to it.
Speaker B:And then after hearing four or five songs, you kind of get tired of it.
Speaker B:I like that there was variety.
Speaker B:I like that it was different.
Speaker B:I grew up on Kiss.
Speaker B:There was four different writers in the band and every song didn't sound exactly the same.
Speaker B:I, that's what I like.
Speaker B:But they decided to have a more same samey sound.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:And change the sound on the second album.
Speaker A:Okay, now who decided this?
Speaker A:The ones?
Speaker B:No, that's what I would like to know because I actually I, I was talking to Mike and I would like to get Mike and Justin on the show.
Speaker B:I can't talk to Ray because race not around anymore, obviously, but I thought it might have been.
Speaker B:I'd be interesting to talk about the whole process of it because the thing you have to understand is when you're in a band and you're trying to make it as a band, there's a lot of concessions.
Speaker B:You have to make.
Speaker B:There's a lot of choices you have to make.
Speaker B:Well, like hard in the 80s, right?
Speaker B:Heart as a band, they had the 70s sound.
Speaker B:Barracuda, all that stuff.
Speaker B:Rocking Ben.
Speaker B:Solid band, solid set of musicians.
Speaker B:And by going into the 80s, they were nobody, no one.
Speaker B:They could, they.
Speaker B:They couldn't catch a cab.
Speaker B:They were so unpopular.
Speaker B:And then the, the labels on them, you know, hey, you guys, you know, like we're going to drop you unless you do something different.
Speaker B:So we're going to bring some songwriters and you're going to sing their songs.
Speaker B:Desperate, they say, okay, fine.
Speaker B:So they have some of the worst songs in history ever written, performed by heart.
Speaker B:A song about a hitchhiker going to kill, like picking up this female hitchhiker, picking up a guy on the side of the road so she can kill him.
Speaker B:That was one of their songs, you know, like.
Speaker B:But huge fucking hits.
Speaker B:It saved the band.
Speaker B:They've get top 10 hits again.
Speaker B:You know, it's the 80s where music, music is vapid and doesn't have a lot of substance, right?
Speaker B:So, you know, it saved them.
Speaker B:So when you're in a band, there's things you have to do for survival.
Speaker B:There's things you have to do for integrity.
Speaker B:And sometimes you have to take the survival over the integrity.
Speaker B:Now, I'm not saying their second album called Gin Taxi, Picking out the Pieces is bad, but I do prefer the original version better because I like the dynamics of it.
Speaker B:But from a commercial perspective, the second album is better.
Speaker B:I'm just.
Speaker B:I don't like commercial stuff that much.
Speaker B:I prefer.
Speaker B:I like listening to demos and you know, and stuff like that, but it's not.
Speaker B:You might like it more.
Speaker B:So we're gonna just get a quick sample.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:We'll take the, the.
Speaker B:The title track, Picking up the pieces and see what, see what you think.
Speaker B:Now you, you remember the production on the other one.
Speaker B:This is with.
Speaker B:Not Len Milney, but this is Brandon Friesen from Studio 11.
Speaker B:You know, Grammy whatever nominated guy.
Speaker B:Let's take a listen.
Speaker A:Ok.
Speaker C:Don't you know the charm has come to life.
Speaker C:Riding the car is Swear you see your life on fruit I'll be killing John.
Speaker C:Waiting for the moment Wherever they lie When I.
Speaker C:Think of the precious.
Speaker A:So I, I could be mistaken and I could be mixing up my bands, but he's got kind of that black crows type of sound to it.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Now you can tell when you're listening to it, like it's definitely a different studio.
Speaker A:Everything's separated.
Speaker B:Oh yeah.
Speaker A:Everything's.
Speaker A:You Know, it's a wider sound.
Speaker A:Whereas the other one, the other studio was.
Speaker A:It was a little more quaint in the middle kind of a thing.
Speaker B:More on the floor sounding.
Speaker A:Yeah, more of a. Yeah, more of a natural sounding where this one was.
Speaker A:They've added more production to it, more space, more reverb, more, you know, some nuances and stuff.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And the singer that they picked, that's the one I remember more.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:So that's kind of.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I don't know if I remember that particular song, but I do remember the singer for sure.
Speaker B:Yeah, he was.
Speaker A:Yeah, because I've heard it.
Speaker A:Because I've heard of, like, the other songs, whatever he played, I. I recognize that.
Speaker A:That voice, for sure.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Very distinctive.
Speaker B:I mean, he's a.
Speaker B:He's a great vocalist.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, for sure.
Speaker B:He's probably the best vocalist.
Speaker B:And I understand why they did, you know, they made a decision, like, we're gonna go.
Speaker A:We're gonna go.
Speaker B:We're gonna stick with him.
Speaker B:Whether it was the, you know, the producer just saying, you know what?
Speaker B:If you're gonna have a singer, it should be the best vocalist.
Speaker B:Now, Mike is dirtier in his vocals, vocal approach, a bit of rasp and whatever, and Rey was a bit more I.
Speaker B:But I like the raw vocal from I. I mean, I like Tom Waits.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Tom Waits is a.
Speaker C:For.
Speaker B:From a purely.
Speaker B:Purely.
Speaker B:I don't know what the word.
Speaker A:What the fuck.
Speaker B:I can't speak today.
Speaker B:Tom Waits is not a good vocalist, but I love his voice.
Speaker A:It's just.
Speaker A:It's raw.
Speaker B:It's real.
Speaker B:It's real.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker A:It's raw.
Speaker A:Real.
Speaker A:It's not polished.
Speaker A:And, you know, I've been taking music lessons for whatever, just to be able to.
Speaker A:To sound a certain way, do something raw.
Speaker A:It's like natural singers, they've had no training at all, but they sound great out of the game.
Speaker B:So, I mean, that's.
Speaker A:Some have a rasp to them.
Speaker A:Some of them have their own little nuance, but it's.
Speaker A:It's like, you know, someone who's talented, where you give him a guitar and, like, within 10 minutes he's doing stuff.
Speaker A:There's like, I've been trying to figure this out for three years type of thing.
Speaker A:It just comes naturally now.
Speaker B:I don't know how much training Justin's had as a singer, but I would suspect probably more than the other two guys.
Speaker B:I mean, he's got.
Speaker B:He's hitting everything right as a vocalist myself.
Speaker B:Like, I'm like, oh, yeah, that's Good.
Speaker B:What you're doing there, definitely.
Speaker B:It's not just singing from your gut.
Speaker B:It's actually singing from your gut, but also with, like, technique.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:A lot of technique and stuff.
Speaker B:So he is the better singer.
Speaker B:But I do like.
Speaker B:I. I like his vocal, but I like hearing.
Speaker B:I like having three different singers in the band.
Speaker B:To me, that's great.
Speaker B:Having four is even better.
Speaker B:But I really like that aspect.
Speaker B:Like, I like the.
Speaker B:The variety now at the time that.
Speaker A:Doesn't sell on the mainstream.
Speaker A:Like, that would be.
Speaker A:No,.
Speaker B:They made the right choice.
Speaker B:And I'm assuming they had success with this versus the first album.
Speaker B:I think the success they had off the first album was from busting their ass playing, opening for everybody, playing every show they could, doing everything they could, you know, to get heard.
Speaker A:Well, I mean, the first album, you spend usually 10, 15 years making it.
Speaker A:Then all of a sudden it's like, the second album is like, okay, well, now we're going to scramble and try and put a whole bunch of songs together.
Speaker A:Especially when, you know, if a record label takes it, says, okay, we're going to sign you on for so many records.
Speaker A:Like, okay, well, the first record, we had all kinds of time to do.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Now it's crunch time.
Speaker A:So now it's like, are they going to be just as good?
Speaker A:Are they going to be just as dynamic?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Is it gonna feel rushed?
Speaker A:Is it gonna be, like, sterile?
Speaker A:Like, you don't know.
Speaker A:It just depends on your.
Speaker A:How your songwriting is and.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And the technique that you use going forward, I guess.
Speaker B:Now, I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker B:When the second album came out, and actually, I actually got to go to the studio a couple times because it was near work where Ray and I worked, and I could drop in.
Speaker B:So Ray brought me in a couple times, which was great because I'd never seen, like, a studio stud studio at that point.
Speaker B:Got to see, you know, how things work and got to, you know, watch some of the recording.
Speaker B:Like, okay, this is cool.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:And again, Ray didn't need to do any of that, but thank you for, you know, letting some.
Speaker B:Some guy come in and.
Speaker B:And see how the, you know, the sausage is made.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:And I think at the time, I liked my stuff heavier.
Speaker B:I mean, this was like the 90s, right?
Speaker B:So I was.
Speaker B:I was heavy into my sound garden at the time and Pantera and stuff like that.
Speaker B:And I like different stuff.
Speaker B:There was a crunch on that first album that was a bit heavier, a bit more raw, a bit more indie, and I wasn't very, like, Keen on industrial or.
Speaker B:Sorry, Indust.
Speaker B:Commercial rock.
Speaker B:I didn't like matchbox 20.
Speaker B:I didn't like any of those types of bands.
Speaker B:Like, at the time, I didn't.
Speaker B:I kind of like those bands now, but at the time, like, no, I'm sticking to my guns, you know, Soundgarden.
Speaker A:Different tastes at the time.
Speaker C:Tool.
Speaker B:Like, I like the shit that was, like, Dangerous.
Speaker B:I didn't like the stuff that made you feel good.
Speaker B:I like the stuff that made you feel like shit, I guess.
Speaker B:So I think when this album came out, I was very, very disappointed at the time because I'm like, well, fuck.
Speaker B:Like, you guys had the formula and not realizing that.
Speaker B:Look, if you want to make it as a band, you have to do certain things to succeed in.
Speaker B:In retrospect, now, the second album is better.
Speaker B:They made.
Speaker A:They.
Speaker B:They made calls to.
Speaker B:To focus in a particular direction.
Speaker B:And I don't know what happened.
Speaker B:I know Mike left the band at that time.
Speaker B:Like, he stayed to record the album, I think, and then he left.
Speaker B:So they had another guy come in to play bass, like when they're promoting the album and stuff.
Speaker B:They didn't release a video for this album, which I thought was interesting.
Speaker B:So I don't know how well the album did for them.
Speaker B:But in retrospect, I do like the second album.
Speaker B:The production is fantastic.
Speaker B:The guitars are toned down, which I'm not a fan of, but this.
Speaker B:But Ray's playing is still great.
Speaker B:It's got a lot.
Speaker B:It's got a lot of.
Speaker B:A lot of his playing on that second album has a lot of more.
Speaker B:It shows his variety of styles and influences and stuff.
Speaker B:So it is the better album, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker B:But at the time, I was mad that they had a formula that worked for me, but it didn't work for, you know, commercial success right now.
Speaker B:We've gone too long on this.
Speaker B:I apologize, but I'm gonna play one more thing.
Speaker B:So when Ray.
Speaker B:When the band broke up and split up and went their ways, they were still friends and everything, but they.
Speaker B:You know, it's like they busted their ass for, I don't know, it was like 10 years or whatever the hell it was.
Speaker B:And it's like, okay, well, we got as far as we probably could, I guess.
Speaker B:I don't know what their thinking was, but Ray went off in a different direction.
Speaker B:So at the time, that.
Speaker B:Of that party, of my coming out party, Ray had totally evolved from being the guitar guy to being a dj.
Speaker B:And Ray had one of his songs actually play.
Speaker B:There was a Club in London that played one of his tracks as a dj.
Speaker A:Where did I go?
Speaker A:Was it your place or someone that.
Speaker A:And they had the double DJ type of thing.
Speaker B:That's probably Ray.
Speaker A:That would make sense.
Speaker A:Is that your host?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Someone's house?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because I think, yeah, you may have a party there or something.
Speaker B:Oh, in my house?
Speaker B:Oh, Ray was there?
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, I think so.
Speaker A:Because I remember seeing the, the, the turntables.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I'm gonna play.
Speaker B:So Ray actually asked me to mix.
Speaker B:It's a horrible job, but he had recorded something and he needed me to convert it to MP3 so he could burn it to CDs and have CDs out.
Speaker B:So this is the CD called DJ Rain Walks Rocks your world.
Speaker B:So Ray N. I don't know what his middle name is, but his middle name is N Ettenhofer.
Speaker B:So DJ Rain.
Speaker B:R A Y N E. Great fucking name.
Speaker B:Anyway, so this is.
Speaker B:Now I don't, I don't think you can get the CD anywhere.
Speaker B:And if anybody wants a copy of this, I can probably bring you a copy because I don't think it's out there.
Speaker B:But anyway, this is his.
Speaker B:Part of his track one for his DJ stage.
Speaker C:It.
Speaker B:I know this is not your thing.
Speaker B:I'm not going to subject you to too much of this during my, my, my post divorce coming out party and all that sort of.
Speaker A:It's great music to have at a party.
Speaker B:Oh yeah, it's great.
Speaker B:I get to see Ray perform a few times, right?
Speaker B:And he was just, he was so locked in.
Speaker B:It's like, he's like, okay, I did the guitar thing, I want to learn something else.
Speaker B:So he learned the other thing.
Speaker B:He learned how to dj.
Speaker B:He was playing out all the time.
Speaker B:He was going out performing all the time as a dj.
Speaker B:He was mixing his own tracks.
Speaker B:He wasn't using.
Speaker B:He was, he was making his own tracks, he was building his own music.
Speaker B:And then he was playing with.
Speaker B:Trying to remember the other guy's name.
Speaker B:I still have all this music from that, that stage.
Speaker B:Let's see if I can find it here.
Speaker B:Music,.
Speaker C:Music.
Speaker B:I've got so much music on my computer it's ridiculous.
Speaker B:He was playing with another dj.
Speaker B:See if I can find it here.
Speaker B:Oh, he was friends with DJ Narcotic.
Speaker B:DJ Narcotic was fucking fantastic trying to find the other guy who was playing with DJ Phosphor.
Speaker B:I don't have any DJ Phosphor.
Speaker B:Anyway, so he was playing with another DJ later.
Speaker B:He was playing with this other DJ and what he was doing.
Speaker B:Is the dj, was doing all the DJ stuff, but he was playing guitar with.
Speaker B:Was fucking great.
Speaker B:It was awesome.
Speaker B:So you went back to guitar and anyway, so I was listening to a lot of that music back then.
Speaker B:It was sort of like, you know, whatever.
Speaker B:Like in terms of autobiographical.
Speaker B:It was me finding myself, me being lost, me finding myself, you know, eventually found my wife Sylvie, who I love so much.
Speaker B:But I had to find my way to her.
Speaker B:So it was me realizing all this stuff.
Speaker B:And even though this guy.
Speaker C:This is a song about a superhero named Tony, it's called Tony.
Speaker B:Even though he's gonna hate me for this.
Speaker B:I do like electronic music because it was the salve I. I had to get me through that really rough period.
Speaker B:And it was going, you know, have going to private raves, meeting people and just not being afraid, I guess, you know, because my whole life reading comic books and shit, I was always hid that from people.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:I'm not gonna let people know I read comic books.
Speaker B:I'm not gonna let people know I read.
Speaker A:No, no.
Speaker B:Go jets, go.
Speaker B:You know, I was always like, lying about who I was because it wasn't cool to be a nerd.
Speaker B:It's cool now, but it wasn't cool back then.
Speaker B:So, you know, going to these places like, oh, my God, you've read the lit.
Speaker B:You've read the latest Alan Dean Foster, like.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, my God, did you read his other book?
Speaker B:And so it was like, you could.
Speaker A:You could be.
Speaker B:You could nerd out at these places, right?
Speaker B:Everyone's just nerds at a rave.
Speaker B:It was great, great time in my life.
Speaker B:So I do like the electronic music and.
Speaker A:And Ray, definitely, Definitely healing time.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, for sure.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker B:You know what it's like.
Speaker A:Yeah, been through it too.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But yeah.
Speaker B:So anyway, so.
Speaker B:Okay, well, this ended up being a Bliss episode.
Speaker B:So thank you, the folks in the band of Bliss.
Speaker B:You guys are great.
Speaker B:I hope I wasn't trying to be disparaging if anything come off that way.
Speaker B:I just wanted to offer my honest opinions of where my head was at at the time.
Speaker B:I love Gin Taxi now.
Speaker B:I didn't like it back then.
Speaker B:I liked Bliss and I wanted my Bliss and I didn't like when my Bliss was taken away.
Speaker B:But now I like Gin Taxi and I actually listen to Gin Taxi.
Speaker B:I don't listen to Bliss much anymore.
Speaker B:I like the second album more, but.
Speaker A:I listen to the whole thing.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's me.
Speaker A:I'm the man on the street.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:I get to hear everything fresh.
Speaker B:But I would like to extend an invitation because apparently Justin and Mike are out there performing together as a duo in doing shows, which is great.
Speaker B:So if you guys ever want to come on and talk about those days, because I think it's in terms of Winnipeg music.
Speaker B:It's important to talk about this.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker B:It's important to promote Winnipeg.
Speaker B:It's important to promote local.
Speaker B:Sorry, I had a lot of garlic for dinner.
Speaker B:I apologize.
Speaker B:Sylvie made this fucking kick ass soup.
Speaker B:So fucking good.
Speaker A:Oh my God.
Speaker B:It's a new Portuguese recipe.
Speaker B:But who heavy.
Speaker A:Mm.
Speaker B:Okay, well, let's sign off here, Todd.
Speaker B:We gotta promote the Patreon, so let's do that thing.
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Speaker B:And then there's also some 75 tier for those losers at trailer behind the metal shop.
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Speaker B:Well, those guys, they've been riding on our coattails the whole time.
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Speaker B:You guys.
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Speaker B:That's all I gotta say.
Speaker B:Anyway, so I want to thank our patrons because that's what we do.
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